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	<title>Comments on: The &quot;Confidentiality Agreements&quot;</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: More Untruthfulness from the U of East Anglia &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/08/12/the-confidentiality-agreements/#comment-230748</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[More Untruthfulness from the U of East Anglia &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 15:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] &#8220;small document&#8221; is online at CRU here. It was reported at CA on August 11, 2009 here, here and here (among [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;small document&#8221; is online at CRU here. It was reported at CA on August 11, 2009 here, here and here (among [...]</p>
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		<title>By: andymc</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/08/12/the-confidentiality-agreements/#comment-191106</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andymc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 12:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Antagonish (with apologies to Hughes Mearns)

I get requests from god knows where,
For missing files that are not there,
They were not there again today,
I wish that you would go away,

Although I know this can&#039;t be proved,
I&#039;m sure we had them when we moved,
We packed them well, but in our haste,
We put them in a box marked ‘waste&#039;

We do not have a single datum,
I told you lads, the doggy ate ‘em.
Secrecy agreements too,
A thieving monkey from the zoo?

Don&#039;t ask me now, don&#039;t ask me later,
There&#039;s just no sign of that raw data
Use Met data that&#039;s been padded,
That&#039;s data that&#039;s had value added,

I put the files upon the stair,
I looked last week, they were not there.
I couldn&#039;t find them come what may,
Maybe they just blew away]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antagonish (with apologies to Hughes Mearns)</p>
<p>I get requests from god knows where,<br />
For missing files that are not there,<br />
They were not there again today,<br />
I wish that you would go away,</p>
<p>Although I know this can&#8217;t be proved,<br />
I&#8217;m sure we had them when we moved,<br />
We packed them well, but in our haste,<br />
We put them in a box marked ‘waste&#8217;</p>
<p>We do not have a single datum,<br />
I told you lads, the doggy ate ‘em.<br />
Secrecy agreements too,<br />
A thieving monkey from the zoo?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t ask me now, don&#8217;t ask me later,<br />
There&#8217;s just no sign of that raw data<br />
Use Met data that&#8217;s been padded,<br />
That&#8217;s data that&#8217;s had value added,</p>
<p>I put the files upon the stair,<br />
I looked last week, they were not there.<br />
I couldn&#8217;t find them come what may,<br />
Maybe they just blew away</p>
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		<title>By: NAS Provides Recommendations for Public Data Access &#171; the Air Vent</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/08/12/the-confidentiality-agreements/#comment-191105</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NAS Provides Recommendations for Public Data Access &#171; the Air Vent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] this article recognizes the key aspect of what Steve McIntyre has spent years now working on  HERE as an example, access to the data and code behind research projects.  Others may agree with NAS recommendations [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this article recognizes the key aspect of what Steve McIntyre has spent years now working on  HERE as an example, access to the data and code behind research projects.  Others may agree with NAS recommendations [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Calentamiento global: ¿son buenos los datos? &#171; PlazaMoyua.org</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/08/12/the-confidentiality-agreements/#comment-191104</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Calentamiento global: ¿son buenos los datos? &#171; PlazaMoyua.org]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The “Confidentiality Agreements” [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: curious</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/08/12/the-confidentiality-agreements/#comment-191103</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[curious]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-352789&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ron Cram (#17)&lt;/a&gt;, Ron - this is probably the place to start if you feel it is worth it:

http://www.ico.gov.uk/complaints/environmental_information_regulation.aspx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-352789" rel="nofollow">Ron Cram (#17)</a>, Ron &#8211; this is probably the place to start if you feel it is worth it:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ico.gov.uk/complaints/environmental_information_regulation.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.ico.gov.uk/complaints/environmental_information_regulation.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: jeez</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/08/12/the-confidentiality-agreements/#comment-191102</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jeez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I received the same response as mosh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received the same response as mosh.</p>
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		<title>By: steven mosher</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/08/12/the-confidentiality-agreements/#comment-191101</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steven mosher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The response to my request:

Dear Mr. Mosher

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT 2000 - INFORMATION REQUEST

(Our Ref: FOI_09-69)

Further to your request for information received on 24 July 2009, I have consulted relevant units within the University and, pursuant to my obligations under section 16 of the Act to provide advice and guidance, I am writing to request clarification of several aspects of your request.  Apologies for the delay in responding to you on this matter, but as you may know, we have received a large number of requests for information under the Act recently and it is taking some time to deal with each request.

In your request, you have asked for a copy of  policies and procedures regarding employee responsibilities regarding entering into confidentiality agreements and verbal agreements, and for a copy of  policies and procedures regarding employee responsibilities regarding the preservation of written agreements.

The University does not have one, overarching policy or procedure regarding entering into confidentiality or verbal agreements.  Each division within the University has policies and procedures specific to their area of work .  This also applies to the preservation of written agreements. In order to answer your question for all of the University, it is highly likely that we would exceed the statutory appropriate limit of 18 person hours to locate, retrieve &amp; review the requested information.

In order to avoid this situation, I would therefore ask you to clarify what aspect of the University&#039;s work would be the focus of your request for such policies and procedures.  For example, given the nature of the other components of your request, are you simply interested in policies in relation to research activities?

Please note that the statutory timescale of 20 working days as defined by the Freedom of Information Act 2000 will be ‘suspended&#039; until such time as we receive clarification of your request. Once that is received, the ‘clock&#039; will recommence, your request considered, and you will receive the information requested within the statutory timescale, subject to the information not being exempt or containing a reference to a third party.  You will be informed of any exemptions or references to third parties.

I trust this is to your satisfaction and look forward to your reply.

Yours sincerely

David Palmer

Information Policy &amp; Compliance Manager

University of East Anglia]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The response to my request:</p>
<p>Dear Mr. Mosher</p>
<p>FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT 2000 &#8211; INFORMATION REQUEST</p>
<p>(Our Ref: FOI_09-69)</p>
<p>Further to your request for information received on 24 July 2009, I have consulted relevant units within the University and, pursuant to my obligations under section 16 of the Act to provide advice and guidance, I am writing to request clarification of several aspects of your request.  Apologies for the delay in responding to you on this matter, but as you may know, we have received a large number of requests for information under the Act recently and it is taking some time to deal with each request.</p>
<p>In your request, you have asked for a copy of  policies and procedures regarding employee responsibilities regarding entering into confidentiality agreements and verbal agreements, and for a copy of  policies and procedures regarding employee responsibilities regarding the preservation of written agreements.</p>
<p>The University does not have one, overarching policy or procedure regarding entering into confidentiality or verbal agreements.  Each division within the University has policies and procedures specific to their area of work .  This also applies to the preservation of written agreements. In order to answer your question for all of the University, it is highly likely that we would exceed the statutory appropriate limit of 18 person hours to locate, retrieve &amp; review the requested information.</p>
<p>In order to avoid this situation, I would therefore ask you to clarify what aspect of the University&#8217;s work would be the focus of your request for such policies and procedures.  For example, given the nature of the other components of your request, are you simply interested in policies in relation to research activities?</p>
<p>Please note that the statutory timescale of 20 working days as defined by the Freedom of Information Act 2000 will be ‘suspended&#8217; until such time as we receive clarification of your request. Once that is received, the ‘clock&#8217; will recommence, your request considered, and you will receive the information requested within the statutory timescale, subject to the information not being exempt or containing a reference to a third party.  You will be informed of any exemptions or references to third parties.</p>
<p>I trust this is to your satisfaction and look forward to your reply.</p>
<p>Yours sincerely</p>
<p>David Palmer</p>
<p>Information Policy &amp; Compliance Manager</p>
<p>University of East Anglia</p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth Fritsch</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/08/12/the-confidentiality-agreements/#comment-191100</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kenneth Fritsch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-352813&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FrancisT (#18)&lt;/a&gt;,

Is not there some confusion here about obtaining, upon request the raw data, that the CRU sources &lt;b&gt;currently&lt;/b&gt; provide to CRU and the original raw data (before the 1980s when the lose of these records occurred) that were provided originally and then adjusted by CRU.  I suspect that CRU could show &quot;value added&quot; after the 1980s and thus they might have a legitimate data series from that time forward.

Of course, since we have the satellite series for that period, I would have to say that UAH rules - or maybe RSS rules.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-352813" rel="nofollow">FrancisT (#18)</a>,</p>
<p>Is not there some confusion here about obtaining, upon request the raw data, that the CRU sources <b>currently</b> provide to CRU and the original raw data (before the 1980s when the lose of these records occurred) that were provided originally and then adjusted by CRU.  I suspect that CRU could show &#8220;value added&#8221; after the 1980s and thus they might have a legitimate data series from that time forward.</p>
<p>Of course, since we have the satellite series for that period, I would have to say that UAH rules &#8211; or maybe RSS rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan O</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/08/12/the-confidentiality-agreements/#comment-191099</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan O]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-352813&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FrancisT (#18)&lt;/a&gt;, I saw that.  Very nice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-352813" rel="nofollow">FrancisT (#18)</a>, I saw that.  Very nice.</p>
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		<title>By: FrancisT</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/08/12/the-confidentiality-agreements/#comment-191098</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FrancisT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-352737&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ryan O (#9)&lt;/a&gt;,

This should tie in nicely with my request (see &lt;a href=&quot;http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/cru-data-lost-or-to-be-posted-in-a-few-months/comment-page-1/#comment-17841&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this comment&lt;/a&gt; at Lucia&#039;s). We ought to get a list of organizations where we don&#039;t need to ask as well as a list of ones where we do]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-352737" rel="nofollow">Ryan O (#9)</a>,</p>
<p>This should tie in nicely with my request (see <a href="http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/cru-data-lost-or-to-be-posted-in-a-few-months/comment-page-1/#comment-17841" rel="nofollow">this comment</a> at Lucia&#8217;s). We ought to get a list of organizations where we don&#8217;t need to ask as well as a list of ones where we do</p>
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