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By: Suspect Graphs On Wikipedia | simonjmeath

Suspect Graphs On Wikipedia | simonjmeath — Sat, 30 Apr 2011 04:58:40 +0000

[...] Suspect Graphs On Wikipedia Posted on April 30, 2011 by simonjmeath This Wikipedia contributor goes by the pseudonym of ‘Hanno’, and has been linked to other dubious graphs on Wikipedia – such as a graph which spliced Mann and Jones’ infamous ‘Hockey Stick’ Graph with the Hadley/CRU temperature index and a graph of CO2 concentration according to ice cores – which even Mann said is something never done by responsible climate scientists (see Steve McIntyre’s analysis: http://climateaudit.org/2009/09/25/spot-the-hockey-stick-n-2/). [...]

By: Atte Korhola: political and social playground « Climate Audit

Atte Korhola: political and social playground « Climate Audit — Tue, 03 Aug 2010 04:27:12 +0000

[...] that “describe ever increasing horrors of climate change” examplified by the recent UNEP-incident. The other example is worth quoting in full. Korhola: Toinen esimerkki on arvovaltaisessa [...]

By: Dave Dardinger

Dave Dardinger — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:10:38 +0000

Re: internet reklamları (Feb 17 08:03), Look's like this poster is not legit. For instance this post is just the first two lines of the most recent trackback on this thread.

By: Greenhoof » Blog Archive » The Climate Post: The documents … they are … Alive! Alive!

Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:46:48 +0000

[...] Don’t forget to check your work: Lastweek, a reader wrote in for more information about which 2007 IPCCpredictions have proven to be too modest. One of the sources Isuggested as reference was the UNEP’s Climate Change Science Compendium 2009, a review of the professional literature for policymakers inadvance of the Copenhagen meeting. The next day, thinking about therecently exposed IPCC error, I started checking through the footnotes.In the opening few pages of my hard copy, there’s a reproduction of thefamous “hockey stick”graph, showing proxy evidence for temperature and CO2 over the last1,000 years or so. I saw the reference, to “Hanno 2009,” and looked itup in the bibliography, but it wasn’t there. Another boneheadedfact-checking mistake, I thought. It’s actually worse than that. “Hanno2009” isn’t a peer-reviewed journal article at all but a Wikipediaentry (!). Steve McIntyre of ClimateAudit.org had found it lastSeptember and written about it here. [...]

By: Living Documents « THE CLIMATE POST

Living Documents « THE CLIMATE POST — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 22:12:05 +0000

[...] Don’t Forget to Check Your Work: Last week, a reader wrote in for more information about which 2007 IPCC predictions have proven to be too modest. One of the sources I suggested as reference was the UNEP’s Climate Change Science Compendium 2009, a review of the professional literature for policymakers in advance of the Copenhagen meeting. The next day, thinking about the recently exposed IPCC error, I started checking through the footnotes. In the opening few pages of my hard copy, there’s a reproduction of the famous “hockey stick” graph, showing proxy evidence for temperature and CO2 over the last 1,000 years or so. I saw the reference, to “Hanno 2009,” and looked it up in the bibliography, but it wasn’t there. Another boneheaded fact-checking mistake, I thought. It’s actually worse than that. “Hanno 2009″ isn’t a peer-reviewed journal article at all but a Wikipedia entry (!). Steve McIntyre of ClimateAudit.org had found it last September and written about it here. [...]

By: cheesegrater

cheesegrater — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:36:41 +0000

The latter splice is, of course, the splice that Mann has informed us is never done by responsible climate scientists, further informing us that the allegation that such splices are done is disinformation by fossil fuel companies.

Mann said he didn’t graft on the “thermometer” record. That is not the same as the CO2 record, or a thermometer record adjusted with CO2 data.

Just because it sounds stupid, doesn’t mean they didn’t do it.

By: Ted Gilles

Ted Gilles — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:12:31 +0000

I saved the Earth Systems chapter with the hockey stick Fig. 1.3 from the original September 24 posting. Contact me at GILLESTED@aol.com if you want a copy of my file and also if you want my assessment sent to selected media outlets, congressmen and senators.

By: bent-out-of-shape

bent-out-of-shape — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:47:11 +0000

bender – yes it is interesting. It shows a cooling in the warm pool during the little ice age. Also there is a hydrologic response in the warm pool. it is adding to the growing evidence that the MWP and LIA were a reorganization of heat between the northern and southern hemispheres. as a result, the monsoon weakens during the LIA, and the ITCZ is thought to have moved southward. Opposite for the MWP. So while the effects of LIA and MWP were global, both hemispheres didn’t do the same thing. It was more like heat transferred from one to the other.

By: bender

bender — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:18:00 +0000

Re: bent-out-of-shape (#94), It's an interesting paper that merits attention. That's why I linked to it. If you would prefer to see the paper linked to a different thread, you are most welcome to do so.

By: bent-out-of-shape

bent-out-of-shape — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:23:18 +0000

Re: bender (#93), did you read the paper or just look at the figure on the website? It is pretty interesting what the recent (last 100 years) trend is in the west pacific warm pool. For instance, did you see Cravette et al., 2009? And I wouldn't say that the Oppo data is a hockey stick... but anyone could see that if they read the paper.