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	<title>Comments on: Sciencemag Enforces Data Archiving</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Geoff Sherrington</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/03/kaufman-data/#comment-226212</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoff Sherrington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 01:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See PaulM on Churchill&#039;s bath towel above.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See PaulM on Churchill&#8217;s bath towel above.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/03/kaufman-data/#comment-201078</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;Wegman&#039;s network analysis missed the much more obvious

This network analysis absolutely dominates the report, and he missed something?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Wegman&#8217;s network analysis missed the much more obvious</p>
<p>This network analysis absolutely dominates the report, and he missed something?</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/03/kaufman-data/#comment-201077</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is this Science&#039;s changing its policies, or is there a difference between Kaufman 09 and Briffa&amp;Osborn 06 that requires Kaufman to provide extra data?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this Science&#8217;s changing its policies, or is there a difference between Kaufman 09 and Briffa&amp;Osborn 06 that requires Kaufman to provide extra data?</p>
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		<title>By: Naija</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/03/kaufman-data/#comment-201076</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Naija]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The small enterprises can&#039;t be ignored for long if the Government is serious about the economy recovering. Small entrepreneurs make the economy tick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The small enterprises can&#8217;t be ignored for long if the Government is serious about the economy recovering. Small entrepreneurs make the economy tick.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Lorrey</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/03/kaufman-data/#comment-201075</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Lorrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From nobelprize.org: &quot;Each year the respective Nobel Committees send individual invitations to thousands of members of academies, university professors, scientists from numerous countries, previous Nobel Laureates, members of parliamentary assemblies and others, asking them to submit candidates for the Nobel Prizes for the coming year. These nominators are chosen in such a way that as many countries and universities as possible are represented over time.&quot;

I would like to propose to any reader of this blog who receives an invitation to nominate people for the nobel prizes, to consider nominating Steve (don&#039;t you dare delete this Steve) for his dogged persistence in leading the charge to demand that the science community, and particularly science publishing, tighten up its ship and live up to the principles and standards of the scientific method.

I&#039;d love to see Al Gore have to attend Steve&#039;s award ceremony.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From nobelprize.org: &#8220;Each year the respective Nobel Committees send individual invitations to thousands of members of academies, university professors, scientists from numerous countries, previous Nobel Laureates, members of parliamentary assemblies and others, asking them to submit candidates for the Nobel Prizes for the coming year. These nominators are chosen in such a way that as many countries and universities as possible are represented over time.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would like to propose to any reader of this blog who receives an invitation to nominate people for the nobel prizes, to consider nominating Steve (don&#8217;t you dare delete this Steve) for his dogged persistence in leading the charge to demand that the science community, and particularly science publishing, tighten up its ship and live up to the principles and standards of the scientific method.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to see Al Gore have to attend Steve&#8217;s award ceremony&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Geo</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/03/kaufman-data/#comment-201074</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Should we be sending Steve bottles of Johnnie Walker Black then? Churchill won the war on a quart a day, it is claimed. . .No wonder he had that lisp!

&quot;It was the nation and race dwelling all around the globe that had the lion&#039;s heart. I had the luck to be called upon to give the roar.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should we be sending Steve bottles of Johnnie Walker Black then? Churchill won the war on a quart a day, it is claimed. . .No wonder he had that lisp!</p>
<p>&#8220;It was the nation and race dwelling all around the globe that had the lion&#8217;s heart. I had the luck to be called upon to give the roar.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Severian</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/03/kaufman-data/#comment-201073</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Severian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The whole issue of not publishing such data is just amazing to me. Where is the up side, ethically or long term? The reasons for not doing so run the gamut from deliberate fraud or incompetence on one side to being so arrogant, or disorganized and befuddled you shouldn&#039;t be trusted to come to the right conclusions with your research on the &quot;good&quot; end of that spectrum. I mean, there&#039;s no &quot;good&quot; fight to be fought there, covering up things that should be freely available has no real up side as far as I can see.

But without the efforts of our host here and scores of others, chipping away at this edifice, so much would still be hidden. We are witnessing a new paradigm of how peer review and science operate today with blogs and such. While it does have a Wild West side at times, it also brings the largest number of serious eyes onto a topic possible, and is egalitarian and promotes what I&#039;d call a true meritocracy of ideas, where rough and tumble discourse peels back the layers and gets down to the real point quickly. Which apparently scares a lot of people invested in the status quo. Same is happening with a lot of the old information channels, from news to entertainment to communication, everything gets more amorphous and interconnected. I do find it an interesting ride, and kudos again to Steve and all the others (including &lt;em&gt;Science&lt;/em&gt;) for freeing the data.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole issue of not publishing such data is just amazing to me. Where is the up side, ethically or long term? The reasons for not doing so run the gamut from deliberate fraud or incompetence on one side to being so arrogant, or disorganized and befuddled you shouldn&#8217;t be trusted to come to the right conclusions with your research on the &#8220;good&#8221; end of that spectrum. I mean, there&#8217;s no &#8220;good&#8221; fight to be fought there, covering up things that should be freely available has no real up side as far as I can see.</p>
<p>But without the efforts of our host here and scores of others, chipping away at this edifice, so much would still be hidden. We are witnessing a new paradigm of how peer review and science operate today with blogs and such. While it does have a Wild West side at times, it also brings the largest number of serious eyes onto a topic possible, and is egalitarian and promotes what I&#8217;d call a true meritocracy of ideas, where rough and tumble discourse peels back the layers and gets down to the real point quickly. Which apparently scares a lot of people invested in the status quo. Same is happening with a lot of the old information channels, from news to entertainment to communication, everything gets more amorphous and interconnected. I do find it an interesting ride, and kudos again to Steve and all the others (including <em>Science</em>) for freeing the data.</p>
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		<title>By: dearieme</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/03/kaufman-data/#comment-201072</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dearieme]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps the Editor of &quot;Nature&quot; should consider the words of Marshal Foch, suitably modified.

The Royal Society has given way, &quot;Science&quot; has retreated, situation dreadful, I shall surrender.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the Editor of &#8220;Nature&#8221; should consider the words of Marshal Foch, suitably modified.</p>
<p>The Royal Society has given way, &#8220;Science&#8221; has retreated, situation dreadful, I shall surrender.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonicfrog</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/03/kaufman-data/#comment-201071</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sonicfrog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&amp;#9835   And the times they are a-chaingin&#039;.....   &amp;#9835]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&amp;#9835   And the times they are a-chaingin&#8217;&#8230;..   &amp;#9835</p>
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		<title>By: Shallow Climate</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/03/kaufman-data/#comment-201070</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shallow Climate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...better off sulking less and archiving more.&quot;:  That&#039;s my quote of the week.  And I too applaud the tenacity, the persistence, of the creator of this blog.  (Can I do that without flattering?  Well, I hope so:  Humility in everyone is vital.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;better off sulking less and archiving more.&#8221;:  That&#8217;s my quote of the week.  And I too applaud the tenacity, the persistence, of the creator of this blog.  (Can I do that without flattering?  Well, I hope so:  Humility in everyone is vital.)</p>
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