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	<title>Comments on: CA Mirror</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: TurkeyLurkey</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/20/hello-world/#comment-203421</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TurkeyLurkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I&#039;m surprised it took them this long to decide to just hammer the CA site.

Or, perhaps it is just having a very busy day...
TL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m surprised it took them this long to decide to just hammer the CA site.</p>
<p>Or, perhaps it is just having a very busy day&#8230;<br />
TL</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Dardinger</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/20/hello-world/#comment-203419</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Dardinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I note that tonight with the last few CA threads closed to comments and it being past most people&#039;s bedtimes, the original site is pretty peppy.  I don&#039;t know what that means in terms of the server, however.

At least i was able to use the Google Search and check to see when CA became aware of the problem with the stripbark growth form (as opposed to CO2 fertilization) and it doesn&#039;t seem to be earlier than with the Team (though there may have been a couple of discussions earlier that I&#039;ve missed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I note that tonight with the last few CA threads closed to comments and it being past most people&#8217;s bedtimes, the original site is pretty peppy.  I don&#8217;t know what that means in terms of the server, however.</p>
<p>At least i was able to use the Google Search and check to see when CA became aware of the problem with the stripbark growth form (as opposed to CO2 fertilization) and it doesn&#8217;t seem to be earlier than with the Team (though there may have been a couple of discussions earlier that I&#8217;ve missed.</p>
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		<title>By: GORE LIED</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/20/hello-world/#comment-203418</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GORE LIED]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve,

Regarding your server problems and the Wordpress mirror site, here&#039;s what I&#039;d recommend:

Use Wordpress as your publishing platform only, i.e. download the Wordpress publishing platform file, but STILL USE YOUR REGULAR OLD climate audit URL.  The url with the &quot;wordpress&quot; in it is unnecessary.

Then you get your blog hosted by a third party.  I have mine hosted by GoDaddy, but there are many.  It costs me about $50/year for the hosting.

Just a suggestion.

By the way, here&#039;s a post I put up today that might make you chuckle (or worse) about a CRU staffer that has &quot;data manipulation&quot; in their job description!

http://algorelied.com/?p=3237]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Regarding your server problems and the WordPress mirror site, here&#8217;s what I&#8217;d recommend:</p>
<p>Use WordPress as your publishing platform only, i.e. download the WordPress publishing platform file, but STILL USE YOUR REGULAR OLD climate audit URL.  The url with the &#8220;wordpress&#8221; in it is unnecessary.</p>
<p>Then you get your blog hosted by a third party.  I have mine hosted by GoDaddy, but there are many.  It costs me about $50/year for the hosting.</p>
<p>Just a suggestion.</p>
<p>By the way, here&#8217;s a post I put up today that might make you chuckle (or worse) about a CRU staffer that has &#8220;data manipulation&#8221; in their job description!</p>
<p><a href="http://algorelied.com/?p=3237" rel="nofollow">http://algorelied.com/?p=3237</a></p>
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		<title>By: TurkeyLurkey</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/20/hello-world/#comment-203417</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TurkeyLurkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, Steve, et al;

Get ready for another tidal wave of web traffic.

The GB TV Show is going to cover the  CRU doc-bomb, within the hour.

Maybe you&#039;ve already seen it from the various radio talkers.

BTW,  you might enjoy &#039;No Highway in the Sky&#039; , from the late 1940&#039;s.
Jimmy Stewart plays the pesky scientist who eventually triumphs over the entrenched interests.
VHS only, but worth the trouble.
(remarkably prescient of the &#039;Comet&#039; failures of the subsequent decade).

TL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, Steve, et al;</p>
<p>Get ready for another tidal wave of web traffic.</p>
<p>The GB TV Show is going to cover the  CRU doc-bomb, within the hour.</p>
<p>Maybe you&#8217;ve already seen it from the various radio talkers.</p>
<p>BTW,  you might enjoy &#8216;No Highway in the Sky&#8217; , from the late 1940&#8242;s.<br />
Jimmy Stewart plays the pesky scientist who eventually triumphs over the entrenched interests.<br />
VHS only, but worth the trouble.<br />
(remarkably prescient of the &#8216;Comet&#8217; failures of the subsequent decade).</p>
<p>TL</p>
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		<title>By: L Nettles</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/20/hello-world/#comment-203416</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L Nettles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This site is missing a tip jar!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This site is missing a tip jar!</p>
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		<title>By: Neal</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/20/hello-world/#comment-203415</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve,
As a retired IT person from an educational institution, I find this whole email question interesting. I saw the articles on the so called hack of the CRU and decided to look into it. I found it interesting that the emails in question were text files with a UNIX email server&#039;s time date stamp tracking as file names. When I opened the email text files I also found it quite interesting that someone had taken the time to delete the full email tracking headers from the file. What was the person trying to cover up from the deletion of the headers? Well I think it is quite apparent from this is that he or she was covering up the fact that it was a blind carbon copy of the email automatically send to the email administrator for archiving purposes.  This is pretty much standard operating procedure for UNIX server administrators. The FOIA folder was most likely created by an server administrator for a freedom of information request.

Although I am not familiar with the UK&#039;s IT email archiving practices, I can tell you that the people in question are royally screwed if they think that any of the emails that they think they deleted were to a person or copied to a person at a US institution.

A 2006 US Supreme Court ruling on the &quot;Federal Rules of Civil Procedure&quot; forces any publicly funded K-12 educational institution, college, University, government organization, and federal grant receiver to archive all email. So any email after 2006 that they think they have deleted from or to a person at one of these institutions is still floating around on a server.  Even worse for the people at CRU telling people to delete their emails is that most of the major universities were archiving email for many years even decades before 2006 because of the university&#039;s or organization&#039;s lawyers requiring it. So in effect they were just deleting the email off of their personal computer and the active email database not the server&#039;s email database archives. US businesses have also been archiving emails for decades because of legal concerns.

Next I decided that would look at the documents in the documents folder to see if I could determine anything from them.  Well after a quick look at the doc, rtf, and pdf files it seems apparent that they are the real thing. Their properties and change tracking show that they were created and edited by the people that they claim to have come from without any additional third party editing.

People are talking about the emails being smoking guns but I find the remarks in the code and the code more of a smoking gun. The code is so hacked around to give predetermined results that it shows the bias of the coder. In other words make the code ignore inconvenient data to show what I want it to show.  The code after a quick scan is quite a mess. Anyone with any pride would be to ashamed of to let it out public viewing. As examples bias take a look at the following remarks from the MANN code files:

function mkp2correlation,indts,depts,remts,t,filter=filter,refperiod=refperiod,$
  datathresh=datathresh
;
; THIS WORKS WITH REMTS BEING A 2D ARRAY (nseries,ntime) OF MULTIPLE TIMESERIES
; WHOSE INFLUENCE IS TO BE REMOVED.  UNFORTUNATELY THE IDL5.4 p_correlate
; FAILS WITH &gt;1 SERIES TO HOLD CONSTANT, SO I HAVE TO REMOVE THEIR INFLUENCE
; FROM BOTH INDTS AND DEPTS USING MULTIPLE LINEAR REGRESSION AND THEN USE THE
; USUAL correlate FUNCTION ON THE RESIDUALS.
;

pro maps12,yrstart,doinfill=doinfill
;
; Plots 24 yearly maps of calibrated (PCR-infilled or not) MXD reconstructions
; of growing season temperatures.  Uses &quot;corrected&quot; MXD - but shouldn&#039;t usually
; plot past 1960 because these will be artificially adjusted to look closer to
; the real temperatures.
;

;
; Plots (1 at a time) yearly maps of calibrated (PCR-infilled or not) MXD
; reconstructions
; of growing season temperatures.  Uses &quot;corrected&quot; MXD - but shouldn&#039;t usually
; plot past 1960 because these will be artificially adjusted to look closer to
; the real temperatures.
;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,<br />
As a retired IT person from an educational institution, I find this whole email question interesting. I saw the articles on the so called hack of the CRU and decided to look into it. I found it interesting that the emails in question were text files with a UNIX email server&#8217;s time date stamp tracking as file names. When I opened the email text files I also found it quite interesting that someone had taken the time to delete the full email tracking headers from the file. What was the person trying to cover up from the deletion of the headers? Well I think it is quite apparent from this is that he or she was covering up the fact that it was a blind carbon copy of the email automatically send to the email administrator for archiving purposes.  This is pretty much standard operating procedure for UNIX server administrators. The FOIA folder was most likely created by an server administrator for a freedom of information request.</p>
<p>Although I am not familiar with the UK&#8217;s IT email archiving practices, I can tell you that the people in question are royally screwed if they think that any of the emails that they think they deleted were to a person or copied to a person at a US institution.</p>
<p>A 2006 US Supreme Court ruling on the &#8220;Federal Rules of Civil Procedure&#8221; forces any publicly funded K-12 educational institution, college, University, government organization, and federal grant receiver to archive all email. So any email after 2006 that they think they have deleted from or to a person at one of these institutions is still floating around on a server.  Even worse for the people at CRU telling people to delete their emails is that most of the major universities were archiving email for many years even decades before 2006 because of the university&#8217;s or organization&#8217;s lawyers requiring it. So in effect they were just deleting the email off of their personal computer and the active email database not the server&#8217;s email database archives. US businesses have also been archiving emails for decades because of legal concerns.</p>
<p>Next I decided that would look at the documents in the documents folder to see if I could determine anything from them.  Well after a quick look at the doc, rtf, and pdf files it seems apparent that they are the real thing. Their properties and change tracking show that they were created and edited by the people that they claim to have come from without any additional third party editing.</p>
<p>People are talking about the emails being smoking guns but I find the remarks in the code and the code more of a smoking gun. The code is so hacked around to give predetermined results that it shows the bias of the coder. In other words make the code ignore inconvenient data to show what I want it to show.  The code after a quick scan is quite a mess. Anyone with any pride would be to ashamed of to let it out public viewing. As examples bias take a look at the following remarks from the MANN code files:</p>
<p>function mkp2correlation,indts,depts,remts,t,filter=filter,refperiod=refperiod,$<br />
  datathresh=datathresh<br />
;<br />
; THIS WORKS WITH REMTS BEING A 2D ARRAY (nseries,ntime) OF MULTIPLE TIMESERIES<br />
; WHOSE INFLUENCE IS TO BE REMOVED.  UNFORTUNATELY THE IDL5.4 p_correlate<br />
; FAILS WITH &gt;1 SERIES TO HOLD CONSTANT, SO I HAVE TO REMOVE THEIR INFLUENCE<br />
; FROM BOTH INDTS AND DEPTS USING MULTIPLE LINEAR REGRESSION AND THEN USE THE<br />
; USUAL correlate FUNCTION ON THE RESIDUALS.<br />
;</p>
<p>pro maps12,yrstart,doinfill=doinfill<br />
;<br />
; Plots 24 yearly maps of calibrated (PCR-infilled or not) MXD reconstructions<br />
; of growing season temperatures.  Uses &#8220;corrected&#8221; MXD &#8211; but shouldn&#8217;t usually<br />
; plot past 1960 because these will be artificially adjusted to look closer to<br />
; the real temperatures.<br />
;</p>
<p>;<br />
; Plots (1 at a time) yearly maps of calibrated (PCR-infilled or not) MXD<br />
; reconstructions<br />
; of growing season temperatures.  Uses &#8220;corrected&#8221; MXD &#8211; but shouldn&#8217;t usually<br />
; plot past 1960 because these will be artificially adjusted to look closer to<br />
; the real temperatures.<br />
;</p>
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		<title>By: David Hewison</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/20/hello-world/#comment-203414</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Hewison]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They are trivial emails such as

&quot;Hey Babe, I&#039;ll be late from work tonight, can you put my dinner in the oven please?

That sort of thing...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are trivial emails such as</p>
<p>&#8220;Hey Babe, I&#8217;ll be late from work tonight, can you put my dinner in the oven please?</p>
<p>That sort of thing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Illis</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/20/hello-world/#comment-203413</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Illis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think we should take up another collection to help defray the costs of upgrading Steve&#039;s servers and systems.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we should take up another collection to help defray the costs of upgrading Steve&#8217;s servers and systems.</p>
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		<title>By: JasonR</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/20/hello-world/#comment-203412</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JasonR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Housekeeping emails involve things being swept under the carpet or put through the laundry. Nothing like what&#039;s been published then.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Housekeeping emails involve things being swept under the carpet or put through the laundry. Nothing like what&#8217;s been published then.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean S</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/20/hello-world/#comment-203411</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jean S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OT: Does anyone know if this paper under discussion was published somewhere:
http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/emails.php?eid=321&amp;filename=1054756929.txt

&quot;I would like to play with it in an effort to refute their claims.
If published as is, this paper could really do some damage. It is also an ugly paper to review because it is rather mathematical, with a lot of Box-Jenkins stuff in it. It won&#039;t be easy to dismiss out of hand as the math appears to be correct theoretically&quot;

Hah!

ChrisS: CA is not slow around these hours ... the same yesterday (NA is sleeping). It will be slow again in 2-3 hours as the east coast starts waking up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT: Does anyone know if this paper under discussion was published somewhere:<br />
<a href="http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/emails.php?eid=321&#038;filename=1054756929.txt" rel="nofollow">http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/emails.php?eid=321&#038;filename=1054756929.txt</a></p>
<p>&#8220;I would like to play with it in an effort to refute their claims.<br />
If published as is, this paper could really do some damage. It is also an ugly paper to review because it is rather mathematical, with a lot of Box-Jenkins stuff in it. It won&#8217;t be easy to dismiss out of hand as the math appears to be correct theoretically&#8221;</p>
<p>Hah!</p>
<p>ChrisS: CA is not slow around these hours &#8230; the same yesterday (NA is sleeping). It will be slow again in 2-3 hours as the east coast starts waking up.</p>
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