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	<title>Comments on: IPCC: “Inappropriate” to show the decline</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Mosher: The Hackers &#171; Watts Up With That?</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/26/ipcc-reviewer-show-the-decline/#comment-218042</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mosher: The Hackers &#171; Watts Up With That?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the Chapter 6 team also manipulated graphics, “hiding the decline,” even when one reviewer explicitly demanded that they show the graphic as it appeared in the original science. And finally, after keeping one skeptical paper out of the first two drafts of the report, as they [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the Chapter 6 team also manipulated graphics, “hiding the decline,” even when one reviewer explicitly demanded that they show the graphic as it appeared in the original science. And finally, after keeping one skeptical paper out of the first two drafts of the report, as they [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fraggle</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/26/ipcc-reviewer-show-the-decline/#comment-205244</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fraggle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you mean p.467 Antonio, and yes it does seem to show Briffa running up to 2000 (I&#039;m assuming B2000 in green is the Briffa reconstruction)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you mean p.467 Antonio, and yes it does seem to show Briffa running up to 2000 (I&#8217;m assuming B2000 in green is the Briffa reconstruction)</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Jones暂时停职等待调查 &#171; 每日IT新闻，最新IT资讯，聚合多站点消息，保证你与世界同步</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/26/ipcc-reviewer-show-the-decline/#comment-205241</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil Jones暂时停职等待调查 &#171; 每日IT新闻，最新IT资讯，聚合多站点消息，保证你与世界同步]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 01:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 由于被公开的邮件显示包括Jones在内一批支持人类行为导致全球暖化的重量级科学家在对待科学界内外的不同意见时可能使用了不道德的手段，并且在研究中用抛弃部分时间段数据的方式“美化”结果，使得气候变化领域部分科学家的可信度遭到质疑。IPCC科学家、德国海岸研究所的Zorita博士表示应该禁止几位涉及在内的科学家继续参加IPCC的工作，他同时表示气候学界存在排挤或者威胁不同意见者的情况，博士生们也常常被教唆调整数据以符合“the &#8216;politically correct picture&#8217;”。麻省理工学院教授Lindzen在《华尔街日报》发表《气候科学尚无定论》表示由于数据质量不够和变动很小，往任何方向动上零点几度都是很容易的。IPCC的报告有上千页，而交给政策制定者的只有20页结论，根本无法把各种观点表达清楚。比如上述截断时间的“美化”方法在IPCC 2007报告中就被评论者指出并认为是“误导”。 [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 由于被公开的邮件显示包括Jones在内一批支持人类行为导致全球暖化的重量级科学家在对待科学界内外的不同意见时可能使用了不道德的手段，并且在研究中用抛弃部分时间段数据的方式“美化”结果，使得气候变化领域部分科学家的可信度遭到质疑。IPCC科学家、德国海岸研究所的Zorita博士表示应该禁止几位涉及在内的科学家继续参加IPCC的工作，他同时表示气候学界存在排挤或者威胁不同意见者的情况，博士生们也常常被教唆调整数据以符合“the &#8216;politically correct picture&#8217;”。麻省理工学院教授Lindzen在《华尔街日报》发表《气候科学尚无定论》表示由于数据质量不够和变动很小，往任何方向动上零点几度都是很容易的。IPCC的报告有上千页，而交给政策制定者的只有20页结论，根本无法把各种观点表达清楚。比如上述截断时间的“美化”方法在IPCC 2007报告中就被评论者指出并认为是“误导”。 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Antonio</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/26/ipcc-reviewer-show-the-decline/#comment-205240</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antonio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The non instrumental series on p.468  of AR4 appear to extend well past 1960]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The non instrumental series on p.468  of AR4 appear to extend well past 1960</p>
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		<title>By: Brazil Tony</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/26/ipcc-reviewer-show-the-decline/#comment-205239</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brazil Tony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does AR4 show the decline in the Briffa series or not? I looked and it appears to show it.

http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/Report/AR4WG1_Print_Ch06.pdf
P.468

&lt;strong&gt;Steve:&lt;/strong&gt; No.  I asked them to show it and they refused.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does AR4 show the decline in the Briffa series or not? I looked and it appears to show it.</p>
<p><a href="http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/Report/AR4WG1_Print_Ch06.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/Report/AR4WG1_Print_Ch06.pdf</a><br />
P.468</p>
<p><strong>Steve:</strong> No.  I asked them to show it and they refused.</p>
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		<title>By: Climategate link fest: CRU Hack/Leak Round-Up #3 &#124; GORE LIED</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/26/ipcc-reviewer-show-the-decline/#comment-205238</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Climategate link fest: CRU Hack/Leak Round-Up #3 &#124; GORE LIED]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The UN IPCC decided that hiding the decline was perfectly fine. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The UN IPCC decided that hiding the decline was perfectly fine. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: FTMonety</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/26/ipcc-reviewer-show-the-decline/#comment-205237</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FTMonety]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If interested interested use search term &quot;law dome.&quot;  It is an updated study on Antarctic ice.  One sample email

http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=709&amp;filename=1153233036.txt

I don&#039;t think the Team were happy with it.  Take a peek, ice-story fans.

Paper:
MacFarling Meure, C., Etheridge, D., Trudinger, C., Steele, P.,
Langenfelds, R., van Ommen, T., Smith, A. and Elkins, J. (2006).
The Law Dome CO2, CH4 and N2O Ice Core Records Extended to 2000
years BP. Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 33, No. 14, L14810

Elsewhere, one can find CO2 charts with Mauna Loa spliced onto the end of Law Dome record from a study earlier than 2006.

Another &quot;hide the decline?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If interested interested use search term &#8220;law dome.&#8221;  It is an updated study on Antarctic ice.  One sample email</p>
<p><a href="http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=709&#038;filename=1153233036.txt" rel="nofollow">http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=709&#038;filename=1153233036.txt</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the Team were happy with it.  Take a peek, ice-story fans.</p>
<p>Paper:<br />
MacFarling Meure, C., Etheridge, D., Trudinger, C., Steele, P.,<br />
Langenfelds, R., van Ommen, T., Smith, A. and Elkins, J. (2006).<br />
The Law Dome CO2, CH4 and N2O Ice Core Records Extended to 2000<br />
years BP. Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 33, No. 14, L14810</p>
<p>Elsewhere, one can find CO2 charts with Mauna Loa spliced onto the end of Law Dome record from a study earlier than 2006.</p>
<p>Another &#8220;hide the decline?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Shallow Climate</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/26/ipcc-reviewer-show-the-decline/#comment-205236</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shallow Climate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know why this hasn&#039;t struck me until now, but be that as it may:  Briffa was the rejecter of each of &quot;one reviewer&quot;&#039;s critiques, as shown above; AND, it is my understanding that Briffa was the lead author of that chapter of the AR (or at least one of the contributing authors).  (So far, so good?)  HOW CAN THAT BE?  The &quot;referee&quot; of the critiques is one of the players in the contest??  Wouldn&#039;t the coach of the Toronto Maple Leafs like also to be the referee of the games his team plays?  And this is supposed to pass as &quot;science&quot;?  If indeed I am &quot;so far, so good&quot;, then this practice of the IPCC is unconscionable, scandalous (and I am standing by those words).  I suppose that Pielke Sr. has already said this in one of his papers, but I&#039;ve not read them (yet).  Any referee for comments to any AR chapter HAS to be a totally disinterested party.  I feel sad.  (Please feel free to shoot me if what I say here is based on false assumptions, etc.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why this hasn&#8217;t struck me until now, but be that as it may:  Briffa was the rejecter of each of &#8220;one reviewer&#8221;&#8216;s critiques, as shown above; AND, it is my understanding that Briffa was the lead author of that chapter of the AR (or at least one of the contributing authors).  (So far, so good?)  HOW CAN THAT BE?  The &#8220;referee&#8221; of the critiques is one of the players in the contest??  Wouldn&#8217;t the coach of the Toronto Maple Leafs like also to be the referee of the games his team plays?  And this is supposed to pass as &#8220;science&#8221;?  If indeed I am &#8220;so far, so good&#8221;, then this practice of the IPCC is unconscionable, scandalous (and I am standing by those words).  I suppose that Pielke Sr. has already said this in one of his papers, but I&#8217;ve not read them (yet).  Any referee for comments to any AR chapter HAS to be a totally disinterested party.  I feel sad.  (Please feel free to shoot me if what I say here is based on false assumptions, etc.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jean Demesure</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/26/ipcc-reviewer-show-the-decline/#comment-205235</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jean Demesure]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Arn Riewe,
Yeah, Briffa reviewing Steve&#039;s comments on Briffa !
The &quot;impartiality&quot; touted by Chairman Pachauri has the same meaning to him as &quot;peer-review&quot; to Mann : a mockery.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Arn Riewe,<br />
Yeah, Briffa reviewing Steve&#8217;s comments on Briffa !<br />
The &#8220;impartiality&#8221; touted by Chairman Pachauri has the same meaning to him as &#8220;peer-review&#8221; to Mann : a mockery.</p>
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		<title>By: Readers Edition &#187; So funktionierte &#8220;Mikes Trick&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/26/ipcc-reviewer-show-the-decline/#comment-205234</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Readers Edition &#187; So funktionierte &#8220;Mikes Trick&#8221;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Irre f&#252;hrten. Er verlangte, den Fehler des aus dem 3. Sachstandbericht nicht zu wiederholen (Dank an ClimateAudit): Zeigen Sie die Briffa Rekonstruktion bis zum Ende; nicht nur bis 1960. Kommentieren Sie die Daten [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Irre f&#252;hrten. Er verlangte, den Fehler des aus dem 3. Sachstandbericht nicht zu wiederholen (Dank an ClimateAudit): Zeigen Sie die Briffa Rekonstruktion bis zum Ende; nicht nur bis 1960. Kommentieren Sie die Daten [...]</p>
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