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		<title>By: Stirling English</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/26/new-the-deleted-data/#comment-235759</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@astro

&#039;Frequency of change&#039;...????

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<p>&#8216;Frequency of change&#8217;&#8230;????</p>
<p><strong>[RomanM:  The spam post you refer to was removed.]</strong></p>
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		<title>By: hkyson</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/26/new-the-deleted-data/#comment-208550</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Climategate” started out when there appeared on the Internet a collection of e-mails of a group of climatologists who work in the University of East Anglia in England. These documents reveal that some climatologists of international preeminence have manipulated the data of their investigations and have strongly tried to discredit climatologists who are not convinced that the increasing quantities of carbon dioxide in our atmosphere are the cause of global warming.

It is true that a majority of the scientists who study climatic tendencies in our atmosphere have arrived at the conclusion that the world’s climate is changing, and they have convinced a group of politicians, some of whom are politically powerful, of the truth of their conclusions.

A minority, however, is skeptical. Some believe that recent data that suggest that the average temperature of the atmosphere is going up can be explained by natural variations in solar radiation and that global warming is a temporary phenomenon. Others believe that the historical evidence indicating that the temperature of the atmosphere is going up at a dangerous rate is simply not reliable.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Climategate” started out when there appeared on the Internet a collection of e-mails of a group of climatologists who work in the University of East Anglia in England. These documents reveal that some climatologists of international preeminence have manipulated the data of their investigations and have strongly tried to discredit climatologists who are not convinced that the increasing quantities of carbon dioxide in our atmosphere are the cause of global warming.</p>
<p>It is true that a majority of the scientists who study climatic tendencies in our atmosphere have arrived at the conclusion that the world’s climate is changing, and they have convinced a group of politicians, some of whom are politically powerful, of the truth of their conclusions.</p>
<p>A minority, however, is skeptical. Some believe that recent data that suggest that the average temperature of the atmosphere is going up can be explained by natural variations in solar radiation and that global warming is a temporary phenomenon. Others believe that the historical evidence indicating that the temperature of the atmosphere is going up at a dangerous rate is simply not reliable.</p>
<p>snip &#8211; too generalized </p>
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		<title>By: Palin Op-Ed in WaPo; obama's politicalization of &#34;science&#34; - Politics and Other Controversies - Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, Conservatives, Liberals, Third Parties, Left-Wing, Right-Wing, Congress, President - Page 21 - City-Data Forum</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 06:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Palin Op-Ed in WaPo; obama's politicalization of &#34;science&#34; - Politics and Other Controversies - Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, Conservatives, Liberals, Third Parties, Left-Wing, Right-Wing, Congress, President - Page 17 - City-Data Forum</title>
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		<title>By: Robin Edwards</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/26/new-the-deleted-data/#comment-205218</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Richard (Saumarez) - I like your suggestion because it impacts on how I view climate data.

I would be really interested in your answer to this problem.

Are you suggesting doing a Runs test on the pseudo-random sample, or perhaps calculating a realisation of the occurrence of lengths 1,2,3,,,n (or something of that type) for one or (many) more trials.?

Robin]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard (Saumarez) &#8211; I like your suggestion because it impacts on how I view climate data.</p>
<p>I would be really interested in your answer to this problem.</p>
<p>Are you suggesting doing a Runs test on the pseudo-random sample, or perhaps calculating a realisation of the occurrence of lengths 1,2,3,,,n (or something of that type) for one or (many) more trials.?</p>
<p>Robin</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Saumarez</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 23:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can I suggest that you take a 1000 year &quot;temperature record&quot; that is random beteen -0.5 and +0.5 and filter it by convolution with a Gaussian profile (sigma=15 years)?  Then calculate the the probability of lengths of above or below average temperature. (As a Monte Carlo problem)

You will find the reults surprising if you don&#039;t know the answer already.

I have concluded that no matter how good the CRU crowd were at climate science, they have have a lot to learn about signal processing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I suggest that you take a 1000 year &#8220;temperature record&#8221; that is random beteen -0.5 and +0.5 and filter it by convolution with a Gaussian profile (sigma=15 years)?  Then calculate the the probability of lengths of above or below average temperature. (As a Monte Carlo problem)</p>
<p>You will find the reults surprising if you don&#8217;t know the answer already.</p>
<p>I have concluded that no matter how good the CRU crowd were at climate science, they have have a lot to learn about signal processing.</p>
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		<title>By: Scientific Integrity &#124; Detached Ideas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scientific Integrity &#124; Detached Ideas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] temperature history. See the discussion by Jean S here, and follow-up posts by Steve McIntyre here and here. The emails contain many similar examples whose cumulative impact will take time to sort [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] temperature history. See the discussion by Jean S here, and follow-up posts by Steve McIntyre here and here. The emails contain many similar examples whose cumulative impact will take time to sort [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What &#8220;Climate Change&#8221; Looks Like When You Don&#8217;t &#8220;Hide the Decline&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What &#8220;Climate Change&#8221; Looks Like When You Don&#8217;t &#8220;Hide the Decline&#8221;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Climate Audit Mirror site has reconstructed the data from Briffa before the math tricks and outright [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Not Chicken Little</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Not Chicken Little]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, all the arguments about which data sets are used, whether the data is smoothed, hidden, or otherwise, is all very revealing - and does not help their argument for AGW.

As a non-scientist where do I find the basis, the explanation for the AGW theory that all of this is caused by Man and his CO2?  Where in the hell is THAT data?  What repeatable, reproducible experiments confirm the role of CO2, and does correlation equal causation in this case?  What about all the CO2 emitted by Nature, doesn&#039;t that play ANY part?  Aren&#039;t Man&#039;s CO2 emissions only about 3% of what Nature contributes?

Aren&#039;t real scientists by nature supposed to be skeptical and trying to find data that DISPROVES their pet hypotheses and not just looking for data that fits and throwing away data that doesn&#039;t (I guess that question has now been answered)?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, all the arguments about which data sets are used, whether the data is smoothed, hidden, or otherwise, is all very revealing &#8211; and does not help their argument for AGW.</p>
<p>As a non-scientist where do I find the basis, the explanation for the AGW theory that all of this is caused by Man and his CO2?  Where in the hell is THAT data?  What repeatable, reproducible experiments confirm the role of CO2, and does correlation equal causation in this case?  What about all the CO2 emitted by Nature, doesn&#8217;t that play ANY part?  Aren&#8217;t Man&#8217;s CO2 emissions only about 3% of what Nature contributes?</p>
<p>Aren&#8217;t real scientists by nature supposed to be skeptical and trying to find data that DISPROVES their pet hypotheses and not just looking for data that fits and throwing away data that doesn&#8217;t (I guess that question has now been answered)?</p>
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		<title>By: Climate Change Conspiracy - Celebs - Vip - Promi - Pictures &#38; News</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/26/new-the-deleted-data/#comment-205210</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Climate Change Conspiracy - Celebs - Vip - Promi - Pictures &#38; News]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Email Deletion http://camirror.wordpress.com/2009/1&#8230;mail-deletion/ Data from the Decline http://camirror.wordpress.com/2009/1&#8230;-deleted-data/ US Congress investigates Climategate e-mails: this could be the beginning of the end for AGW  [...]]]></description>
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