Comments on: Still Hiding the Decline http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/29/still-hiding-the-decline/ by Steve McIntyre Tue, 21 May 2013 05:19:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Climategate: Der Trick mit dem Hockey Stick « So Halt http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/29/still-hiding-the-decline/#comment-205878 Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:33:31 +0000 http://camirror.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-205878 [...] Grafik habe ich in GNU Octave (das ist eine Art freies Matlab) geschrieben und es basiert auf dem in R geschriebenen Programm von Stephen Mcintyre. Die Daten werden mit einem 40 Jahre Hamming Tiefpass Filter geglättet, wobei der Mittelwert der [...]

]]> By: Dorv562 http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/29/still-hiding-the-decline/#comment-205876 Sun, 06 Dec 2009 01:08:58 +0000 http://camirror.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-205876 Steve, beware of KPFK….

]]> By: Eben http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/29/still-hiding-the-decline/#comment-205875 Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:39:58 +0000 http://camirror.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-205875 Seeking an interview with you Mr. McIntyre!!?? I am a producer/host on KPFK 90.7fm in Los Angeles and have always questioned the science behind human induced global warming.

Please email me at your earliest convenience!! And thank you so much for all that you do!

Eben Rey
KPFK 90.7fm
RadioAlchymy

]]> By: nanny_govt_sucks http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/29/still-hiding-the-decline/#comment-205874 Sat, 05 Dec 2009 06:18:37 +0000 http://camirror.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-205874 Did anyone catch this from Dr. Mann:

http://www.mcall.com/news/nationworld/state/all-a11_5climategate.7105053dec03,0,3182494.story

“Mann said last week the ”trick” was not a deception, but a clever way to combine the best data from the last 1,000 years until 1960 with actual temperature readings from 1961 to 1999. He says ”decline” refers to the decline in the reliability of tree rings to reflect temperatures after 1960.”

… and how is that “reliability” assessed? By comparing to temperatures, right?

]]> By: airfoilmod http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/29/still-hiding-the-decline/#comment-205872 Fri, 04 Dec 2009 01:58:12 +0000 http://camirror.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-205872 Delete if too vanilla/plebeian. My Weather/Climate memory has retreating Ice at Poles a result of not only temp. but Drought, which can be caused by declining GMT. Less energy at Equator to evaporate water, weaker winds to distribute said vapor, less water transported to Poles to fall as precip, to then augment ice after seasonal melt, etc. What memory fails is the relationship and scale, GMT/precip/and related trends. Anyone? I’m calling cooling, but my degree is old.

]]> By: Scientific Integrity | Detached Ideas http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/29/still-hiding-the-decline/#comment-205871 Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:14:57 +0000 http://camirror.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-205871 [...] history. See the discussion by Jean S here, and follow-up posts by Steve McIntyre here and here. The emails contain many similar examples whose cumulative impact will take time to sort [...]

]]> By: Harry http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/29/still-hiding-the-decline/#comment-205870 Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:50:30 +0000 http://camirror.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-205870 I was just reading this BBC article that include some ‘data’

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/sci_tech/2009/copenhagen/8386319.stm

It struck me funny that the CO2 readings are being taken from Mauna Loa which is a volcano.

I’m not a scientist but it’s seems to me the gases that a volcano emits merely tell us something about that particular volcano and nothing more.

]]> By: Mike Hollinshead http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/29/still-hiding-the-decline/#comment-205869 Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:55:21 +0000 http://camirror.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-205869 re: AJ Strat raw CRU data analysis

AJ Strat provides a CRU map showing the range of variation in measurement.

It is significant that the widest variation is seen in Northern high latitudes where claimed global warming has been most significant. It is all in the >4 degree C category.

]]> By: gober http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/29/still-hiding-the-decline/#comment-205868 Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:16:33 +0000 http://camirror.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-205868 Hi Steve,

I got all the way through to the last two lines, at which point “usr 1960″ generated the message:

‘Error: unexpected numeric constant in “usr 1960″‘

and the “points( c(time(smoothb))…….” line generated:

‘Error in points(c(time(smoothb))[temp], smoothb[temp, "briffa"], pch = 19, :
object ‘temp’ not found’

Also, from comparing your code with Michael’s (above), it looks like yours is plotting only one out of four time series: only one “plot( c(time(smoothb))…” line.

Again, I’m sure this is the least of your worries, but I assume you wouldn’t have bothered to post it if you didn’t want it to be entirely reproducible.

]]> By: Scott Gibson http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/29/still-hiding-the-decline/#comment-205867 Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:10:57 +0000 http://camirror.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-205867 Norbert-

Yes we are off topic, and thanks to Steve for allowing that. I’ll just answer your last question, because I have to run.

As I said, I am a geologist although I have worked with tree ring geochemistry, so my area of expertise is in geology not meteorology. The point I’m trying to make is, that regardless of whether the global temperature is going up or down at this moment, we are much closer to another ice age than to catasrophic warming. I don’t believe the data we have proves or disproves global warming. I don’t know whether it is warming now or not.

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