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	<title>Comments on: New KGB-Fossil Fuel Company Attack at UVic</title>
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		<title>By: cpx</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/10/new-kgb-fossil-fuel-company-attack-at-uvic/#comment-209416</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or perhaps &quot;Copenhagen baits with weighted data&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or perhaps &#8220;Copenhagen baits with weighted data&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Level_Head</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/10/new-kgb-fossil-fuel-company-attack-at-uvic/#comment-208570</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Level_Head]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think so.  BP has been pushing this for some time, and was an early strong supporter of the Kyoto Protocol, according to this:
http://cei.org/articles/wall-street-extorts-kyoto-protocol-lehman-enron-and-other-cap-and-trade-coincidences

BP is valuable to them, in this email

&lt;blockquote&gt;I have talked with Tim O&#039;Riordan and others here today and Tim has a wealth of contacts he is prepared to help with.  Four specific ones from Tim are:
- Charlotte Grezo, BP Fuel Options (possibly on the Assessment Panel. She is also on the ESRC Research Priorities Board), but someone Tim can easily talk with.  There are others in BP Tim knows too.
- Richard Sykes, Head of Environment Division at Shell International&lt;blockquote&gt;
From here:
http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=156&amp;filename=947541692.txt

Just as Shell is mentioned in these emails and documents as supplying support, as long as you focus on &quot;practical&quot; (profitable) aspects.  From the internal document UEA-Tyndall-Shell-Memo.doc:&lt;blockquote&gt;2.	Shell’s interest is not in basic science. Any work they support must have a clear and immediate relevance to ‘real-world’ activities. They are particularly interested in emissions trading and CDM.&lt;blockquote&gt;
http://junkscience.com/FOIA/documents/uea-tyndall-shell-memo.doc

It&#039;s not clear how much (or even if) Shell has given them for the Tyndall Center, but their meetings apparently resulted in the above document.

I expect that BP&#039;s interest is similar.

===&#124;==============/ Level Head]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think so.  BP has been pushing this for some time, and was an early strong supporter of the Kyoto Protocol, according to this:<br />
<a href="http://cei.org/articles/wall-street-extorts-kyoto-protocol-lehman-enron-and-other-cap-and-trade-coincidences" rel="nofollow">http://cei.org/articles/wall-street-extorts-kyoto-protocol-lehman-enron-and-other-cap-and-trade-coincidences</a></p>
<p>BP is valuable to them, in this email</p>
<blockquote><p>I have talked with Tim O&#8217;Riordan and others here today and Tim has a wealth of contacts he is prepared to help with.  Four specific ones from Tim are:<br />
- Charlotte Grezo, BP Fuel Options (possibly on the Assessment Panel. She is also on the ESRC Research Priorities Board), but someone Tim can easily talk with.  There are others in BP Tim knows too.<br />
- Richard Sykes, Head of Environment Division at Shell International<br />
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From here:<br />
<a href="http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=156&#038;filename=947541692.txt" rel="nofollow">http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=156&#038;filename=947541692.txt</a></p>
<p>Just as Shell is mentioned in these emails and documents as supplying support, as long as you focus on &#8220;practical&#8221; (profitable) aspects.  From the internal document UEA-Tyndall-Shell-Memo.doc:<br />
<blockquote>2.	Shell’s interest is not in basic science. Any work they support must have a clear and immediate relevance to ‘real-world’ activities. They are particularly interested in emissions trading and CDM.<br />
<blockquote>
<a href="http://junkscience.com/FOIA/documents/uea-tyndall-shell-memo.doc" rel="nofollow">http://junkscience.com/FOIA/documents/uea-tyndall-shell-memo.doc</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not clear how much (or even if) Shell has given them for the Tyndall Center, but their meetings apparently resulted in the above document.</p>
<p>I expect that BP&#8217;s interest is similar.</p>
<p>===|==============/ Level Head</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Sean Peake</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/10/new-kgb-fossil-fuel-company-attack-at-uvic/#comment-208559</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean Peake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think doing that is a waste of electrons.  Canned responses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think doing that is a waste of electrons.  Canned responses.</p>
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		<title>By: UVIC</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/10/new-kgb-fossil-fuel-company-attack-at-uvic/#comment-208509</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[UVIC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not surprised that Weaver is coming up with this conspiracy.  I&#039;m at UVic and after this theft happened the folks in the EOS building were closing it down at 7pm each day.  They&#039;re ultra paranoid there.  Pretty much every room on the floor that Weaver&#039;s office is on is keyfobed.  I studied in an area on his floor around the 7pm close time and was kicked out of the building and told that campus security would be called if I didn&#039;t leave.  On a funny note, after the theft, signs were posting saying &quot;Put your laptop in a locked drawer, if they can&#039;t see it they can&#039;t steal it.&quot;  Maybe Weaver&#039;s rational was that if he &quot;hid&quot; his laptop then the climate change &quot;deniers&quot; couldn&#039;t steal it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not surprised that Weaver is coming up with this conspiracy.  I&#8217;m at UVic and after this theft happened the folks in the EOS building were closing it down at 7pm each day.  They&#8217;re ultra paranoid there.  Pretty much every room on the floor that Weaver&#8217;s office is on is keyfobed.  I studied in an area on his floor around the 7pm close time and was kicked out of the building and told that campus security would be called if I didn&#8217;t leave.  On a funny note, after the theft, signs were posting saying &#8220;Put your laptop in a locked drawer, if they can&#8217;t see it they can&#8217;t steal it.&#8221;  Maybe Weaver&#8217;s rational was that if he &#8220;hid&#8221; his laptop then the climate change &#8220;deniers&#8221; couldn&#8217;t steal it.</p>
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		<title>By: HankHenry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HankHenry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OFF thread but I hope it&#039;s ok here:

The NYTimes, at Dot Earth, are inviting people to pose questions for their reporters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OFF thread but I hope it&#8217;s ok here:</p>
<p>The NYTimes, at Dot Earth, are inviting people to pose questions for their reporters.</p>
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		<title>By: derek</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[derek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 05:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve thanks for the effort i truly appriciate it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve thanks for the effort i truly appriciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: NickAtNight</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/10/new-kgb-fossil-fuel-company-attack-at-uvic/#comment-208326</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NickAtNight]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 02:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Interesting to see embedded in the article that a promiment supporter of AGW would have accepted a $1 million from BP Amoco.&quot;

In that case, he (the promiment supporter of AGW) should watch his back.  It probably means they are getting ready to throw him overboard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Interesting to see embedded in the article that a promiment supporter of AGW would have accepted a $1 million from BP Amoco.&#8221;</p>
<p>In that case, he (the promiment supporter of AGW) should watch his back.  It probably means they are getting ready to throw him overboard.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward McDermed</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/10/new-kgb-fossil-fuel-company-attack-at-uvic/#comment-208299</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward McDermed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please find this link to the APS split over their Global warming statement titled 
Physics Group Splinters Over Global Warming Review on the CBS news blog at link
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/12/10/taking_liberties/entry5964504.shtml

Interesting to see embedded in the article that a promiment supporter of AGW would have accepted a $1 million from BP Amoco. I thought only skeptics were tools of the oil industry. I think Socolow alone has gotten more money from oil than all skeptics combined.

From the article:
&quot;The scientist who will head the American Physical Society&#039;s review of its 2007 statement calling for immediate reductions of carbon dioxide is Princeton&#039;s Robert Socolow, a prominent supporter of the link between CO2 and global warming who has warned of possible &quot;catastrophic consequences&quot; of climate change. 

Socolow&#039;s research institute at Princeton has received well over $20 million in grants dealing with climate change and carbon reduction, plus an additional $2 million a year from BP and still more from the federal government. In an interview published by Princeton&#039;s public relations office, Socolow called CO2 a &quot;climate problem&quot; that governments need to address. 

&quot;It is Socolow whose entire research funding stream, well over a million dollars a year, depends on continued alarm over global warming,&quot; says William Happer, a fellow Princeton University professor and head of the Happer physics lab who has raised the question of a conflict of interest. The reason: the ostensibly neutral person charged with evaluating a statement endorsing man-made global warming is a leading proponent of precisely that theory whose funding is tied to that theory.&quot;

thanks
edward]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please find this link to the APS split over their Global warming statement titled<br />
Physics Group Splinters Over Global Warming Review on the CBS news blog at link<br />
<a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/12/10/taking_liberties/entry5964504.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/12/10/taking_liberties/entry5964504.shtml</a></p>
<p>Interesting to see embedded in the article that a promiment supporter of AGW would have accepted a $1 million from BP Amoco. I thought only skeptics were tools of the oil industry. I think Socolow alone has gotten more money from oil than all skeptics combined.</p>
<p>From the article:<br />
&#8220;The scientist who will head the American Physical Society&#8217;s review of its 2007 statement calling for immediate reductions of carbon dioxide is Princeton&#8217;s Robert Socolow, a prominent supporter of the link between CO2 and global warming who has warned of possible &#8220;catastrophic consequences&#8221; of climate change. </p>
<p>Socolow&#8217;s research institute at Princeton has received well over $20 million in grants dealing with climate change and carbon reduction, plus an additional $2 million a year from BP and still more from the federal government. In an interview published by Princeton&#8217;s public relations office, Socolow called CO2 a &#8220;climate problem&#8221; that governments need to address. </p>
<p>&#8220;It is Socolow whose entire research funding stream, well over a million dollars a year, depends on continued alarm over global warming,&#8221; says William Happer, a fellow Princeton University professor and head of the Happer physics lab who has raised the question of a conflict of interest. The reason: the ostensibly neutral person charged with evaluating a statement endorsing man-made global warming is a leading proponent of precisely that theory whose funding is tied to that theory.&#8221;</p>
<p>thanks<br />
edward</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin_S</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin_S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did anyone find a business card?  I would have stated: &quot;This office ransacked by Sam Fisher.  If you determine that Mr. Fisher was unprofessional in his ransacking duties please call the NSA at 1-800-Setec Astronomy&quot;
Heck, if they want to go for conspiracies, go for the gold.  How about a NSA-KGB-Big Oil(both Russian and US) consortium?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone find a business card?  I would have stated: &#8220;This office ransacked by Sam Fisher.  If you determine that Mr. Fisher was unprofessional in his ransacking duties please call the NSA at 1-800-Setec Astronomy&#8221;<br />
Heck, if they want to go for conspiracies, go for the gold.  How about a NSA-KGB-Big Oil(both Russian and US) consortium?</p>
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		<title>By: hro001</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hro001]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Terence Corcoran in yesterday&#039;s FP Comment in the National Post has picked up on this:

Weaver&#039;s Web II

Climate modeler’s break-in caper spreads across Canadian
university, exposing Climategate as monster crossdisciplinary big-oil funded attack on psychology labs

[...]


This news comes from none other than Steve McIntyre (the man who broke Mr. Weaver&#039;s hockey stick) on his world-famous Climate Audit blog. A UVic informant sent Mr. McIntyre a copy of the internal email after reading that Doc Weaver was publicly blaming the oil industry for the break-in at his office at the university, where he is chair in Climate Modeling and Analysis. He says his computer was stolen and implied a connection to the Climategate email scandal at the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) a the University of East Anglia. Gosh those oil industry guys are smart and sophisticated--there they are wandering around the University of Victoria, jimmying locks in the psych labs. Look there: Are those lab tests on cognitive impairment part of the climate modelers tool kit?

Steve McIntyre has an even better explanation of what&#039;s going on: &quot;GCM (General Crime Modelers) believe that the break-ins at the Psychology Department at the University of Victoria are the proverbial &#039;smoking gun&#039; that proves the teleconnection between American fossil fuel interests and the Russian secret service, that resulted in Climategate.&quot;

[...]

http://www.financialpost.com/opinion/story.html?id=2323222#ixzz0ZPb8xtOn]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terence Corcoran in yesterday&#8217;s FP Comment in the National Post has picked up on this:</p>
<p>Weaver&#8217;s Web II</p>
<p>Climate modeler’s break-in caper spreads across Canadian<br />
university, exposing Climategate as monster crossdisciplinary big-oil funded attack on psychology labs</p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p>This news comes from none other than Steve McIntyre (the man who broke Mr. Weaver&#8217;s hockey stick) on his world-famous Climate Audit blog. A UVic informant sent Mr. McIntyre a copy of the internal email after reading that Doc Weaver was publicly blaming the oil industry for the break-in at his office at the university, where he is chair in Climate Modeling and Analysis. He says his computer was stolen and implied a connection to the Climategate email scandal at the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) a the University of East Anglia. Gosh those oil industry guys are smart and sophisticated&#8211;there they are wandering around the University of Victoria, jimmying locks in the psych labs. Look there: Are those lab tests on cognitive impairment part of the climate modelers tool kit?</p>
<p>Steve McIntyre has an even better explanation of what&#8217;s going on: &#8220;GCM (General Crime Modelers) believe that the break-ins at the Psychology Department at the University of Victoria are the proverbial &#8216;smoking gun&#8217; that proves the teleconnection between American fossil fuel interests and the Russian secret service, that resulted in Climategate.&#8221;</p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p><a href="http://www.financialpost.com/opinion/story.html?id=2323222#ixzz0ZPb8xtOn" rel="nofollow">http://www.financialpost.com/opinion/story.html?id=2323222#ixzz0ZPb8xtOn</a></p>
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