Comments on: Weaver Solves Climategate http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/10/weaver-solves-climategate/ by Steve McIntyre Sat, 18 May 2013 19:12:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Guy Dombrowski http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/10/weaver-solves-climategate/#comment-211242 Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:47:28 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=9463#comment-211242 Nobody seem to have thought about a very reliable way to follow temperature variations.
The Degree/Days system that has been in use for a long time to calculate the heating needs for all buildings is probably the best way to get very good data.
The University of Oxford has a nice data set for a 20 years period from 1987 to 2006 for all of UK showing the yearly average.
The result show a cooling trend that correlate nicely with those tree rings that they tried to hide.
http://www.eci.ox.ac.uk/research/energy/degreedays.php
I will try to get Canada data

]]> By: yonason http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/10/weaver-solves-climategate/#comment-210845 Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:13:45 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=9463#comment-210845 How it’s “piling on” to elaborate on how I agree with you I don’t see.

]]> By: yonason http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/10/weaver-solves-climategate/#comment-210741 Sun, 20 Dec 2009 09:29:41 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=9463#comment-210741 snip – piling on

]]> By: bender http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/10/weaver-solves-climategate/#comment-209345 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:03:41 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=9463#comment-209345 Correction: feel free to seek out a dendro thread and correct me there. The topic here is the Weaver break-ins.

]]> By: bender http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/10/weaver-solves-climategate/#comment-209344 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:02:07 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=9463#comment-209344 Dendros, please feel free to chime in and correct me.

]]> By: bender http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/10/weaver-solves-climategate/#comment-209341 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:00:53 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=9463#comment-209341 Not to single you out, but there have been dozens of people making identical comments in past weeks. It’s a topic that has been discussed to death at CA. If you read the blog you’ll see there’s a wide range of commentary from insightful to useless to idiocy. For some reason climategate has given people license to post comments without actually reading the blog.
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Treeline trees are more temperature limited than those below treeline, both in theory and in fact. But still, yes, there are other factors that limit growth, such as moisture, N and C (the latter of which are usually presumed as fixed). Univariate reconstructions are thus approximations. Dendros know this. The issue is how you go about quantifying the error and uncertainty on a mis-specified approximation. The problem is not trivial.

]]> By: R Brown http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/10/weaver-solves-climategate/#comment-209332 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:33:21 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=9463#comment-209332 OT

]]> By: yonason http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/10/weaver-solves-climategate/#comment-208965 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:01:42 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=9463#comment-208965 And all the time I thought it was this guy.

]]> By: Charles DrPH http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/10/weaver-solves-climategate/#comment-208963 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:57:22 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=9463#comment-208963 Thanks, Steve, that was excellent!

I myself have read so much of the blinking CRU emails, analysis and editorializing that I’m starting to go a bit batty with it all….

Some humor really helps, sir! Cheers and best, Chuck in Chicago (Univ of Illinois)

]]> By: John http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/10/weaver-solves-climategate/#comment-208498 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:10:34 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=9463#comment-208498 Ought to credit T.S. Eliot’s “Book of Practical Cats” for Macavity– “Cats” Broadway-run lasted quite some years. We especially appreciate “Old Deuteronomy” and “Growl Tiger” the bravo-cat, whose demise was cheered on Thames-side wharves: “Rats were roasted whole in Depford and along Victoria Dock, and a day of celebration was commanded in Bangkok.”

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