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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Climategate and the Limits of Authority &#124; Wheat and Tares</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/12/daily-mail-special-investigation/#comment-253680</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Climategate and the Limits of Authority &#124; Wheat and Tares]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 15:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] As journalists explored these issues, they began to see an erosion of objectivity between the scientific conclusions, with their inherent uncertainty, and the &#8220;consensus&#8221; that simplified things for the policy-makers. For example, The Daily Telegraph produced a beautiful graphic showing  what &#8220;hide the decline&#8221; was about. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As journalists explored these issues, they began to see an erosion of objectivity between the scientific conclusions, with their inherent uncertainty, and the &#8220;consensus&#8221; that simplified things for the policy-makers. For example, The Daily Telegraph produced a beautiful graphic showing  what &#8220;hide the decline&#8221; was about. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mojib Latif slams Daily Mail &#171; Deep Climate</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/12/daily-mail-special-investigation/#comment-215186</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mojib Latif slams Daily Mail &#171; Deep Climate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] after ClimateAudit covered his article, Rose explained how it all came about: I am honoured by the kind comments on my article. For the record: without [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] after ClimateAudit covered his article, Rose explained how it all came about: I am honoured by the kind comments on my article. For the record: without [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mojib Latif slams Daily Mail&#8217;s &#171; Deep Climate</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/12/daily-mail-special-investigation/#comment-215184</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mojib Latif slams Daily Mail&#8217;s &#171; Deep Climate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] after ClimateAudit covered his article, Rose explained how it all came about: I am honoured by the kind comments on my article. For the record: without [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] after ClimateAudit covered his article, Rose explained how it all came about: I am honoured by the kind comments on my article. For the record: without [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TAKE YOUR HAND OUT OF THE COOKIE JAR! &#171; The Fire Still Burning</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/12/daily-mail-special-investigation/#comment-210328</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TAKE YOUR HAND OUT OF THE COOKIE JAR! &#171; The Fire Still Burning]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 23:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Of course, reviews of the released materials have made it clear that it was another, more alarming decline that had to be hidden. This  has already been extensively reported, complete with color graphics worth the proverbial thousand words by British news organizations.  [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Of course, reviews of the released materials have made it clear that it was another, more alarming decline that had to be hidden. This  has already been extensively reported, complete with color graphics worth the proverbial thousand words by British news organizations.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/12/daily-mail-special-investigation/#comment-209546</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Didn&#039;t say I wasn&#039;t impatient :)

I think I might be making a mistake in thinking that the recent newsy posts have been taking up a significant amount of time that might otherwise have been used for something more, umn, mathsy. In fact, thinking about it, they&#039;re not going to take as much of Steve&#039;s time as a statistical analysis, even if the comments take as long to read - the posts must be more as-well-as than instead-of.

I did hear a suggestion that Steve&#039;s not superman, but that&#039;s clearly an unjustified ad hominem attack instigated by the CRU :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t say I wasn&#8217;t impatient <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think I might be making a mistake in thinking that the recent newsy posts have been taking up a significant amount of time that might otherwise have been used for something more, umn, mathsy. In fact, thinking about it, they&#8217;re not going to take as much of Steve&#8217;s time as a statistical analysis, even if the comments take as long to read &#8211; the posts must be more as-well-as than instead-of.</p>
<p>I did hear a suggestion that Steve&#8217;s not superman, but that&#8217;s clearly an unjustified ad hominem attack instigated by the CRU <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: dves</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/12/daily-mail-special-investigation/#comment-209483</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dves]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a good presentation on the graph. Very simple and understandable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a good presentation on the graph. Very simple and understandable.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/12/daily-mail-special-investigation/#comment-209424</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Norway&#039;s biggest online business website &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.e24.no&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;E24&lt;/a&gt; just published this story, under the headline &lt;i&gt;&quot;This is how the researchers fudged the climate data&quot;&lt;/i&gt;. The journalist relies heavily on the Daily Mail article, and writes that the Daily mail article in turn relied on Steve&#039;s work.

My hope is that the large newspapers will follow suit -- they have been largely silent on Climategate thus far.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norway&#8217;s biggest online business website <a href="http://www.e24.no" rel="nofollow">E24</a> just published this story, under the headline <i>&#8220;This is how the researchers fudged the climate data&#8221;</i>. The journalist relies heavily on the Daily Mail article, and writes that the Daily mail article in turn relied on Steve&#8217;s work.</p>
<p>My hope is that the large newspapers will follow suit &#8212; they have been largely silent on Climategate thus far.</p>
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		<title>By: TJA</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/12/daily-mail-special-investigation/#comment-209412</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TJA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Factcheck.org&#039;s coverup attempt on &quot;hide the decline.&quot;  They should change their name to &quot;handwaving.org&quot;

http://factcheck.org/2009/12/climategate/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Factcheck.org&#8217;s coverup attempt on &#8220;hide the decline.&#8221;  They should change their name to &#8220;handwaving.org&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://factcheck.org/2009/12/climategate/" rel="nofollow">http://factcheck.org/2009/12/climategate/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Christoph</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/12/daily-mail-special-investigation/#comment-209368</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christoph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;If the Daily Mail features such a story then you know climate skepticism has gone mainstream.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The Daily Mail is a conservative newspaper so I wouldn&#039;t quite say that. I&#039;m in Australia where the media coverage is just awful.

The debates on CNN, etc., and the British press? I guarantee you there&#039;s been no comparable coverage on national TV here. Some of the smaller radio shows, sure.

But the Daily Mail has a wide readership and it is an excellent start. Other news organizations will have to address it, eventually.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;If the Daily Mail features such a story then you know climate skepticism has gone mainstream.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The Daily Mail is a conservative newspaper so I wouldn&#8217;t quite say that. I&#8217;m in Australia where the media coverage is just awful.</p>
<p>The debates on CNN, etc., and the British press? I guarantee you there&#8217;s been no comparable coverage on national TV here. Some of the smaller radio shows, sure.</p>
<p>But the Daily Mail has a wide readership and it is an excellent start. Other news organizations will have to address it, eventually.</p>
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		<title>By: KevinUK</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/12/daily-mail-special-investigation/#comment-209357</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KevinUK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave, 

It s good to see that you have been following some of Steve&#039;s threads in some detail. I apologise for having a go at you just before. I can sympathise with you impatience. I suspect if we are prepared to admit it, we are all a little impatient to see this stuff dealt with? But, it takes a great deal of time and effort to get to the bottom of what has been going on. Ther are still some like Eric Steig who link we should just &#039;move on as there is nothing to see here&#039;.

Well sorry Eric but we&#039;d just like to have a look ourselves just on the off chance that there might be something to see here. After all if Steve and Ross hadn&#039;t been of an inquisitive nature and Michael Mann hadn&#039;t just told them what Eric Steig has just told me to do on a different web site, then most likely we&#039;d have never found out that Mann&#039;s claim that the warming trend towards the latter part of the 20th century is &#039;unprecedented in the last thousand years&#039; was not robust. Steve would have been able to do other things in his spare time and perhaps by now he could have been a World squash doubles champion. Fortunately world squash&#039;s loss was our gain. So thanks Eric and Michael but no thanks. We&#039;ll move on when we are good and ready because as far as we are cooncerned there is still plenty to see here.

KevinUK

&lt;strong&gt;Steve:&lt;/strong&gt; There were levels and levels of squash players better than me.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, </p>
<p>It s good to see that you have been following some of Steve&#8217;s threads in some detail. I apologise for having a go at you just before. I can sympathise with you impatience. I suspect if we are prepared to admit it, we are all a little impatient to see this stuff dealt with? But, it takes a great deal of time and effort to get to the bottom of what has been going on. Ther are still some like Eric Steig who link we should just &#8216;move on as there is nothing to see here&#8217;.</p>
<p>Well sorry Eric but we&#8217;d just like to have a look ourselves just on the off chance that there might be something to see here. After all if Steve and Ross hadn&#8217;t been of an inquisitive nature and Michael Mann hadn&#8217;t just told them what Eric Steig has just told me to do on a different web site, then most likely we&#8217;d have never found out that Mann&#8217;s claim that the warming trend towards the latter part of the 20th century is &#8216;unprecedented in the last thousand years&#8217; was not robust. Steve would have been able to do other things in his spare time and perhaps by now he could have been a World squash doubles champion. Fortunately world squash&#8217;s loss was our gain. So thanks Eric and Michael but no thanks. We&#8217;ll move on when we are good and ready because as far as we are cooncerned there is still plenty to see here.</p>
<p>KevinUK</p>
<p><strong>Steve:</strong> There were levels and levels of squash players better than me.  </p>
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