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	<title>Comments on: Trevor Davies, UEA on Leaked Documents: Then and Now</title>
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		<title>By: Peter Oneil</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/12/trevor-davies-uea-on-leaked-documents-then-and-now/#comment-226108</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Oneil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apologies, that should read BENIGN]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies, that should read BENIGN</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Oneil</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/12/trevor-davies-uea-on-leaked-documents-then-and-now/#comment-226107</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Oneil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I cannot believe that all the establisment figures who comment(DISMISS) the contents of the e-mails, have read them in their entirity. Furthermore, i cannot understand why professor jones contemplated suicide if their contents were so beiign.The scientific community must stand up and be counted on this issue,if they are going to regain any semblance of credibility.They either support the hockey stick team or they condemn it. Speak up now or condemn science to an ignominious and deserved place of contempt in the minds of (in my opinion) most reasonable people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot believe that all the establisment figures who comment(DISMISS) the contents of the e-mails, have read them in their entirity. Furthermore, i cannot understand why professor jones contemplated suicide if their contents were so beiign.The scientific community must stand up and be counted on this issue,if they are going to regain any semblance of credibility.They either support the hockey stick team or they condemn it. Speak up now or condemn science to an ignominious and deserved place of contempt in the minds of (in my opinion) most reasonable people.</p>
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		<title>By: Oxburgh and Davies &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/12/trevor-davies-uea-on-leaked-documents-then-and-now/#comment-226031</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oxburgh and Davies &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 01:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] discussed Davies in an earlier CA post here. In that letter, Davies (who has vociferously denounced the public circulation of the Climategate [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] discussed Davies in an earlier CA post here. In that letter, Davies (who has vociferously denounced the public circulation of the Climategate [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Even the Criminals of Climategate Avoid Gore &#171; The Global Warming Hoax</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/12/trevor-davies-uea-on-leaked-documents-then-and-now/#comment-225583</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Even the Criminals of Climategate Avoid Gore &#171; The Global Warming Hoax]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Davis began with his condemnation of the leaks when first disclosed, but he had no problem with leaked emails he obtained about funding and provided to the CRU [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Davis began with his condemnation of the leaks when first disclosed, but he had no problem with leaked emails he obtained about funding and provided to the CRU [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Even the Criminals of Climategate Avoid Gore &#171; Thoughts Of A Conservative Christian</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/12/trevor-davies-uea-on-leaked-documents-then-and-now/#comment-225582</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Even the Criminals of Climategate Avoid Gore &#171; Thoughts Of A Conservative Christian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Davis began with his condemnation of the leaks when first disclosed, but he had no problem with leaked emails he obtained about funding and provided to the CRU [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Davis began with his condemnation of the leaks when first disclosed, but he had no problem with leaked emails he obtained about funding and provided to the CRU [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Sherrington</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/12/trevor-davies-uea-on-leaked-documents-then-and-now/#comment-214979</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoff Sherrington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 23:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Back-browsing - In case you never received a response, here is the text (not all of it, just ask) surrounding the unfinished quote above:
&quot;      Also this load of rubbish !

       This is from an Australian at BMRC (not Neville Nicholls). It began from the attached

    article. What an idiot. The scientific community would come down on me in no
    uncertain terms if I said the world had cooled from 1998. OK it has but it is only
    7 years of data and it isn&#039;t statistically significant.

      The Australian also alerted me to this blogging !  I think this is the term !  Luckily

    I don&#039;t live in Australia.

     [1]http://mustelid.blogspot.com/2005/06/first-look-at-scs-msu-vn52.html
     Unlike the UK, the public in Australia is very very naïve about climate change, mostly
     because of our governments Kyoto stance, and because there is a proliferation of people
     with no climate knowledge at all that are prepared to do the gov bidding. Hence the
     general populace is at best confused, and at worst, antagonistic about climate change -
     for instance, at a recent rural meeting on drought, attended by politicians and around
     2000 farmers, a Qld collegue - Dr Roger Stone - spoke about drought from a climatologist
     point of view, and suggested that climate change may be playing a role in Australias
     continuing drought+water problem. He was booed and heckled (and unfortunately some
     politicians applauded when this happened) - that&#039;s what we&#039;re dealing with due to
     columists such as the one I sent to you.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back-browsing &#8211; In case you never received a response, here is the text (not all of it, just ask) surrounding the unfinished quote above:<br />
&#8221;      Also this load of rubbish !</p>
<p>       This is from an Australian at BMRC (not Neville Nicholls). It began from the attached</p>
<p>    article. What an idiot. The scientific community would come down on me in no<br />
    uncertain terms if I said the world had cooled from 1998. OK it has but it is only<br />
    7 years of data and it isn&#8217;t statistically significant.</p>
<p>      The Australian also alerted me to this blogging !  I think this is the term !  Luckily</p>
<p>    I don&#8217;t live in Australia.</p>
<p>     [1]http://mustelid.blogspot.com/2005/06/first-look-at-scs-msu-vn52.html<br />
     Unlike the UK, the public in Australia is very very naïve about climate change, mostly<br />
     because of our governments Kyoto stance, and because there is a proliferation of people<br />
     with no climate knowledge at all that are prepared to do the gov bidding. Hence the<br />
     general populace is at best confused, and at worst, antagonistic about climate change -<br />
     for instance, at a recent rural meeting on drought, attended by politicians and around<br />
     2000 farmers, a Qld collegue &#8211; Dr Roger Stone &#8211; spoke about drought from a climatologist<br />
     point of view, and suggested that climate change may be playing a role in Australias<br />
     continuing drought+water problem. He was booed and heckled (and unfortunately some<br />
     politicians applauded when this happened) &#8211; that&#8217;s what we&#8217;re dealing with due to<br />
     columists such as the one I sent to you.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Clif C</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/12/trevor-davies-uea-on-leaked-documents-then-and-now/#comment-214974</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clif C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 22:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;by . . . design, the pre-selection of these particular emails makes the writers appear more preoccupied with ‘things Steve’ than they really are&quot;

An aide-memoire (which includes this site) IS all about the author. So what? Any perceptive reader knows that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;by . . . design, the pre-selection of these particular emails makes the writers appear more preoccupied with ‘things Steve’ than they really are&#8221;</p>
<p>An aide-memoire (which includes this site) IS all about the author. So what? Any perceptive reader knows that.</p>
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		<title>By: Gore embarassing his &#8220;mates&#8221; and now they avoid him &#171; seeker401</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/12/trevor-davies-uea-on-leaked-documents-then-and-now/#comment-210303</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gore embarassing his &#8220;mates&#8221; and now they avoid him &#171; seeker401]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Davis began with his condemnation of the leaks when first disclosed, but he had no problem with leaked emails he obtained about funding and provided to the CRU [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Davis began with his condemnation of the leaks when first disclosed, but he had no problem with leaked emails he obtained about funding and provided to the CRU [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Spanner in the works</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/12/trevor-davies-uea-on-leaked-documents-then-and-now/#comment-210107</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spanner in the works]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 02:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a bodger&#039;s botch of a subthread this turned out to be. Or should that be botcher&#039;s bodge?

Oh who cares. I&#039;m not paying for it. Take it back and get a refund.

Chucka]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a bodger&#8217;s botch of a subthread this turned out to be. Or should that be botcher&#8217;s bodge?</p>
<p>Oh who cares. I&#8217;m not paying for it. Take it back and get a refund.</p>
<p>Chucka</p>
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		<title>By: Joss</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/12/trevor-davies-uea-on-leaked-documents-then-and-now/#comment-209938</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the FOI request is refused why not also pump in an EIR which has less of a chance of refusal.

http://www.defra.gov.uk/corporate/policy/opengov/eir/faq.htm

gives some more data specifically. If the request can be phrased or go after a specific set of data this is a lot more difficult to refuse than an FOI.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the FOI request is refused why not also pump in an EIR which has less of a chance of refusal.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.defra.gov.uk/corporate/policy/opengov/eir/faq.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.defra.gov.uk/corporate/policy/opengov/eir/faq.htm</a></p>
<p>gives some more data specifically. If the request can be phrased or go after a specific set of data this is a lot more difficult to refuse than an FOI.</p>
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