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	<title>Comments on: National Domestic Extremism Team</title>
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		<title>By: 888BAILMAN</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/01/08/9844/#comment-226241</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 20:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a conspiracy among many of the Climate Scientists. The released emails are clear evidence of it. When a group of scientists suppress data that disagrees and then even make up data to support their theory, that is a conspiracy. They are just like other religious extremists who believe the ends justify the means. Anyone who violates the public trust in this manner should go to jail and be held accountable. If they are in the US, they can then call me &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.VictorvilleBailMan.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;888BAILMAN&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a conspiracy among many of the Climate Scientists. The released emails are clear evidence of it. When a group of scientists suppress data that disagrees and then even make up data to support their theory, that is a conspiracy. They are just like other religious extremists who believe the ends justify the means. Anyone who violates the public trust in this manner should go to jail and be held accountable. If they are in the US, they can then call me <a href="http://www.VictorvilleBailMan.com" rel="nofollow">888BAILMAN</a></p>
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		<title>By: JCM</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/01/08/9844/#comment-225444</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here we are 4 months since the &#039;miracle&#039; and 3 months into the police investigation and the silence is deafening. John Quiggin in Australia has his knickers in a knot about the emails and making interesting allegations.
When will Norfolk police and NDET inform the public as to the results, if any, of their investigation ? Or have the national security officials told them to keep quiet in light of recent security concerns expressed in certain quarters ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here we are 4 months since the &#8216;miracle&#8217; and 3 months into the police investigation and the silence is deafening. John Quiggin in Australia has his knickers in a knot about the emails and making interesting allegations.<br />
When will Norfolk police and NDET inform the public as to the results, if any, of their investigation ? Or have the national security officials told them to keep quiet in light of recent security concerns expressed in certain quarters ?</p>
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		<title>By: David A</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/01/08/9844/#comment-221808</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You mean &quot;Beserkley&quot;, I think.  BTW, any reference to the work you describe?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean &#8220;Beserkley&#8221;, I think.  BTW, any reference to the work you describe?</p>
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		<title>By: jerry</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/01/08/9844/#comment-217209</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 23:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DGJ

Actually, you may be right. It is illegal to delete material under the FOI and telling other people to do the same would be a conspiracy.

From the FOI act of 2000

77.
Offence of altering etc. records with intent to prevent disclosure.
— (1) Where—
(a)
a request for information has been made to a public authority, and
(b)
under section 1 of this Act or section 7 of the M1 Data Protection Act 1998, the applicant would have been entitled (subject to payment of any fee) to communication of any information in accordance with that section,
any person to whom this subsection applies is guilty of an offence if he alters, defaces, blocks, erases, destroys or conceals any record held by the public authority, with the intention of preventing the disclosure by that authority of all, or any part, of the information to the communication of which the applicant would have been entitled.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DGJ</p>
<p>Actually, you may be right. It is illegal to delete material under the FOI and telling other people to do the same would be a conspiracy.</p>
<p>From the FOI act of 2000</p>
<p>77.<br />
Offence of altering etc. records with intent to prevent disclosure.<br />
— (1) Where—<br />
(a)<br />
a request for information has been made to a public authority, and<br />
(b)<br />
under section 1 of this Act or section 7 of the M1 Data Protection Act 1998, the applicant would have been entitled (subject to payment of any fee) to communication of any information in accordance with that section,<br />
any person to whom this subsection applies is guilty of an offence if he alters, defaces, blocks, erases, destroys or conceals any record held by the public authority, with the intention of preventing the disclosure by that authority of all, or any part, of the information to the communication of which the applicant would have been entitled.</p>
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		<title>By: DGH</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/01/08/9844/#comment-217172</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DGH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jerry,  The post today regarding the inquiry into the emails got me thinking.  Perhaps others have been here and gone already, but I am a bit slow.

I don&#039;t mean to suggest that the Constables or the NDET are currently investigating the behavior of the gentlemen from EAU, CRU or Penn State.  Nor am I alleging that Jones, Mann, et al did anything illegal.  But it sure smells funny and if the Constables are looking for evidence of a conspiracy I suggest they review the &quot;can you delete&quot; exchange between Jones and Mann.

Jones - &quot;Can you also email Gene and get him to do the same?...Keith will too...Caspar to do likewise.&quot;
Mann - &quot;I&#039;ll contact Gene about this ASAP.&quot;

So if it was illegal for them to delete emails then it would potentially be illegal for them to conspire to delete them.  And while Mann now denies deleting emails, that denial is irrelevant as it relates to &quot;conspiracy.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry,  The post today regarding the inquiry into the emails got me thinking.  Perhaps others have been here and gone already, but I am a bit slow.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to suggest that the Constables or the NDET are currently investigating the behavior of the gentlemen from EAU, CRU or Penn State.  Nor am I alleging that Jones, Mann, et al did anything illegal.  But it sure smells funny and if the Constables are looking for evidence of a conspiracy I suggest they review the &#8220;can you delete&#8221; exchange between Jones and Mann.</p>
<p>Jones &#8211; &#8220;Can you also email Gene and get him to do the same?&#8230;Keith will too&#8230;Caspar to do likewise.&#8221;<br />
Mann &#8211; &#8220;I&#8217;ll contact Gene about this ASAP.&#8221;</p>
<p>So if it was illegal for them to delete emails then it would potentially be illegal for them to conspire to delete them.  And while Mann now denies deleting emails, that denial is irrelevant as it relates to &#8220;conspiracy.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Boudu</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/01/08/9844/#comment-217145</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or maybe the local plod get to do the donkey work and NDET get to steam in like the Sweeney.

&#039;We&#039;re the National Domestic Extremist Team and we haven&#039;t had our breakfast yet !&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or maybe the local plod get to do the donkey work and NDET get to steam in like the Sweeney.</p>
<p>&#8216;We&#8217;re the National Domestic Extremist Team and we haven&#8217;t had our breakfast yet !&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Bishop Hill</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/01/08/9844/#comment-217133</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bishop Hill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 12:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-217132&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Boudu (Jan 22 06:24)&lt;/a&gt;, that&#039;s interesting. Some people have definitely been contacted by NDET. It&#039;s possible it&#039;s the same people of course, but just signing themselves as Norfolk Constabulary now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-217132" rel="nofollow"> Boudu (Jan 22 06:24)</a>, that&#8217;s interesting. Some people have definitely been contacted by NDET. It&#8217;s possible it&#8217;s the same people of course, but just signing themselves as Norfolk Constabulary now.</p>
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		<title>By: Boudu</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/01/08/9844/#comment-217132</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boudu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 11:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The guy who phone me was from Norfolk Constabulary not NDET.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guy who phone me was from Norfolk Constabulary not NDET.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Drake</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/01/08/9844/#comment-217027</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Drake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It took a while to get through moderation but it&#039;s more likely UK politicians and civil servants will read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/rorycellanjones/2010/01/public_data_free_at_last.html#P91319849&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my comment&lt;/a&gt; on Rory&#039;s blog than here I guess. The best I could think of at the time. But it feels like a good day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It took a while to get through moderation but it&#8217;s more likely UK politicians and civil servants will read <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/rorycellanjones/2010/01/public_data_free_at_last.html#P91319849" rel="nofollow">my comment</a> on Rory&#8217;s blog than here I guess. The best I could think of at the time. But it feels like a good day.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Drake</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/01/08/9844/#comment-217020</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Drake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s the BBC business/IT man &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/rorycellanjones/2010/01/public_data_free_at_last.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rory Cellan-Jones&lt;/a&gt; on how this thing originally got momentum last year:
&lt;blockquote&gt;They made painfully slow progress, coming up against both incomprehension and inertia in Whitehall and some legitimate concerns about the cost of the whole project. Then in stepped a man who changed everything.

At a lunch at Chequers, the creator of the web, Sir Tim Berners-Lee, explained to the prime minister just why setting government data free was important, a vision he&#039;d already outlined in a speech at the TED conference where he got the crowd chanting &quot;raw data now!&quot; I&#039;m not sure whether he got Gordon Brown to join in with that chant around the Chequers dining-table, but he was given the job of making it happen.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Well done Tim. And I was just thinking that both he and Rory are in that large and reasonably interesting set of people I&#039;ve met just once. (Gordon hasn&#039;t yet had the privilege.) 

I believe the timing is very good for &lt;a href=&quot;http://climateaudit.org/2010/01/14/giss-on-hansen-y2k/#comment-216283&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;what we all want to see&lt;/a&gt; with climate data - and then source code (and hopefully the &lt;a href=&quot;http://climateaudit.org/2010/01/18/curry-reviews-lindzen-and-choi/#comment-216783&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;earliest web publishing&lt;/a&gt; of papers, using something like http://arXiv.org). Just in case people missed this in the early hours London time. How I spotted the story then I have no idea. It&#039;s been linked from the BBC front page from this morning but that&#039;s not how I found it originally. That part&#039;s murky. And sorry to interrupt this thread except it seems very in line with what &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-217002&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Boudu&lt;/a&gt;&#039;s just said to the Norfolk constabulary. All great stuff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the BBC business/IT man <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/rorycellanjones/2010/01/public_data_free_at_last.html" rel="nofollow">Rory Cellan-Jones</a> on how this thing originally got momentum last year:</p>
<blockquote><p>They made painfully slow progress, coming up against both incomprehension and inertia in Whitehall and some legitimate concerns about the cost of the whole project. Then in stepped a man who changed everything.</p>
<p>At a lunch at Chequers, the creator of the web, Sir Tim Berners-Lee, explained to the prime minister just why setting government data free was important, a vision he&#8217;d already outlined in a speech at the TED conference where he got the crowd chanting &#8220;raw data now!&#8221; I&#8217;m not sure whether he got Gordon Brown to join in with that chant around the Chequers dining-table, but he was given the job of making it happen.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well done Tim. And I was just thinking that both he and Rory are in that large and reasonably interesting set of people I&#8217;ve met just once. (Gordon hasn&#8217;t yet had the privilege.) </p>
<p>I believe the timing is very good for <a href="http://climateaudit.org/2010/01/14/giss-on-hansen-y2k/#comment-216283" rel="nofollow">what we all want to see</a> with climate data &#8211; and then source code (and hopefully the <a href="http://climateaudit.org/2010/01/18/curry-reviews-lindzen-and-choi/#comment-216783" rel="nofollow">earliest web publishing</a> of papers, using something like <a href="http://arXiv.org" rel="nofollow">http://arXiv.org</a>). Just in case people missed this in the early hours London time. How I spotted the story then I have no idea. It&#8217;s been linked from the BBC front page from this morning but that&#8217;s not how I found it originally. That part&#8217;s murky. And sorry to interrupt this thread except it seems very in line with what <a href="#comment-217002" rel="nofollow">Boudu</a>&#8216;s just said to the Norfolk constabulary. All great stuff.</p>
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