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		<title>By: Inquiry Disinformation about CRUTEM &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/01/30/the-end-of-crutem/#comment-235947</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Inquiry Disinformation about CRUTEM &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] see my post from earlier this year discussing the &#8220;end of CRUTEM&#8221; and the desireability of this [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] see my post from earlier this year discussing the &#8220;end of CRUTEM&#8221; and the desireability of this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: geo</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/01/30/the-end-of-crutem/#comment-219074</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[geo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 00:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So much for Phil Jones&#039; &quot;25 year investment&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much for Phil Jones&#8217; &#8220;25 year investment&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: rafa</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/01/30/the-end-of-crutem/#comment-219019</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you all seen the response to FAQ 16?:&quot;Why is this responsibility with the UEA/CRU and not the Met Office Hadley Centre?&quot;. 

I have to confess I did not know the CRU was funded primarily by the United States.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you all seen the response to FAQ 16?:&#8221;Why is this responsibility with the UEA/CRU and not the Met Office Hadley Centre?&#8221;. </p>
<p>I have to confess I did not know the CRU was funded primarily by the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/01/30/the-end-of-crutem/#comment-219000</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent idea.  The folks producing the data should not be subject to the temptation to be proven right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent idea.  The folks producing the data should not be subject to the temptation to be proven right.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnR</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/01/30/the-end-of-crutem/#comment-218899</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JohnR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 08:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Canadian temperature data - it appears that one can now download ALL the Canadian temperature and precipitation data in a single file:

&quot;Canadian Daily Climate Data (CDCD): For those with a high speed Internet connection, the 2006/7 CDCD containing daily temperature, precipitation and snow-on-the-ground data is available for download. Data is available for the complete period of record for each location up to 2007. The file contains software that provides access to the data.

Please note that the CDCD download file is 212 MB and will require 880 MB of disk space when uncompressed. Download times will vary according to each user&#039;s system and internet traffic.&quot;

This is available from the page:

http://www.climate.weatheroffice.gc.ca/prods_servs/index_e.html

under CDS and Downloads - about 1/2 way down the page.
http://www.climate.weatheroffice.gc.ca/prods_servs/index_e.html

about 1/2 way down is the link to all the data for all stations in Canada from their inception up to 2006/7. 

I have downloaded a copy and it appears indeed to be complete.

Note that the program runs in the DOS environment and that you must run it from a root directory - I run it in a DOS box on my MacBook Pro running Windows 2000 under VMWare Fusion and found that the program name and switch are in the format:

X: cdcd - dX where &#039;X&#039; is the drive root that you are in. (C:, D:, E:, etc.).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Canadian temperature data &#8211; it appears that one can now download ALL the Canadian temperature and precipitation data in a single file:</p>
<p>&#8220;Canadian Daily Climate Data (CDCD): For those with a high speed Internet connection, the 2006/7 CDCD containing daily temperature, precipitation and snow-on-the-ground data is available for download. Data is available for the complete period of record for each location up to 2007. The file contains software that provides access to the data.</p>
<p>Please note that the CDCD download file is 212 MB and will require 880 MB of disk space when uncompressed. Download times will vary according to each user&#8217;s system and internet traffic.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is available from the page:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.climate.weatheroffice.gc.ca/prods_servs/index_e.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.climate.weatheroffice.gc.ca/prods_servs/index_e.html</a></p>
<p>under CDS and Downloads &#8211; about 1/2 way down the page.<br />
<a href="http://www.climate.weatheroffice.gc.ca/prods_servs/index_e.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.climate.weatheroffice.gc.ca/prods_servs/index_e.html</a></p>
<p>about 1/2 way down is the link to all the data for all stations in Canada from their inception up to 2006/7. </p>
<p>I have downloaded a copy and it appears indeed to be complete.</p>
<p>Note that the program runs in the DOS environment and that you must run it from a root directory &#8211; I run it in a DOS box on my MacBook Pro running Windows 2000 under VMWare Fusion and found that the program name and switch are in the format:</p>
<p>X: cdcd &#8211; dX where &#8216;X&#8217; is the drive root that you are in. (C:, D:, E:, etc.).</p>
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		<title>By: Jimchip</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/01/30/the-end-of-crutem/#comment-218864</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jimchip]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 02:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-218657&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nick Moon (Jan 31 06:19)&lt;/a&gt;, 

I could wrong but those types of announcements are usually for announcing that the latest data is out. Others will then use it model-wise or forecast-wise. Of course, they already knew but it lets everyone know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-218657" rel="nofollow">Nick Moon (Jan 31 06:19)</a>, </p>
<p>I could wrong but those types of announcements are usually for announcing that the latest data is out. Others will then use it model-wise or forecast-wise. Of course, they already knew but it lets everyone know.</p>
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		<title>By: Jemmi Button</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/01/30/the-end-of-crutem/#comment-218849</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jemmi Button]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 01:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the public here does not know what it is like to be an university scienist
Universities are chronically understaffed and proffessors become shizophrenic in dividing there time between teaching, administration and research. 

At the time the CRU dataset was collected a lot of the issues here were probably a minor concern. Note also that the CRU dataset is only one of the datasets showing a global temperature increase. Its importance is not so big. I could think that, due to the fact that it tries to be spatially explicit, is not even a very good dataset to describe global temperature increase.

Anyway it is one of the demonstrations of global change and there are many others...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the public here does not know what it is like to be an university scienist<br />
Universities are chronically understaffed and proffessors become shizophrenic in dividing there time between teaching, administration and research. </p>
<p>At the time the CRU dataset was collected a lot of the issues here were probably a minor concern. Note also that the CRU dataset is only one of the datasets showing a global temperature increase. Its importance is not so big. I could think that, due to the fact that it tries to be spatially explicit, is not even a very good dataset to describe global temperature increase.</p>
<p>Anyway it is one of the demonstrations of global change and there are many others&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: justbeau</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/01/30/the-end-of-crutem/#comment-218834</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[justbeau]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 00:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This essay by McIntyre on the value of more professional collection and transparent custody and sharing of temperature data makes a great deal of sense.  (Ironically, even such thoughtful, socially constructive views might not be acceptable for publishing in those scientific journals which have a vested interest in protecting shoddy management of temperature data.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This essay by McIntyre on the value of more professional collection and transparent custody and sharing of temperature data makes a great deal of sense.  (Ironically, even such thoughtful, socially constructive views might not be acceptable for publishing in those scientific journals which have a vested interest in protecting shoddy management of temperature data.)</p>
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		<title>By: Clif C</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/01/30/the-end-of-crutem/#comment-218830</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clif C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 00:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well . . . . the gdp deflator isn&#039;t &#039;calibrated to&#039; the cpi&#039;s marketbasket. E.g. &lt;a href=&quot;http://ecco2.jpl.nasa.gov/data2/data/sst/Liming/LLi_output/References/SST_IR_insitu_a.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Accuracy of in situ sea surface temperatures used to calibrate infrared satellite measurements&quot;&lt;/a&gt;, the point there being that buoys deployed for other purposes (like surface temp record collection) are less than optimum for satellite calibration.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well . . . . the gdp deflator isn&#8217;t &#8216;calibrated to&#8217; the cpi&#8217;s marketbasket. E.g. <a href="http://ecco2.jpl.nasa.gov/data2/data/sst/Liming/LLi_output/References/SST_IR_insitu_a.pdf" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Accuracy of in situ sea surface temperatures used to calibrate infrared satellite measurements&#8221;</a>, the point there being that buoys deployed for other purposes (like surface temp record collection) are less than optimum for satellite calibration.</p>
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		<title>By: Solomon Green</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/01/30/the-end-of-crutem/#comment-218789</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Solomon Green]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[re geronimo.

The round robin signed by the &quot;UK Science Community&quot; looks impressive at first glance.    Until one looks at just how many scientists did not sign it.   I looked through the list to see which of my friends and acquaintances, be they lecturers, professors or post-docs, had signed and could not see any of their names.  Then I noticed that several universities were missing.  City, Herriott Watt and Buckingham are more highly respected than a number of the former polytechnics whose acadmics and students signed the round robin.  
The arrogance of those who purported to represent the UK Science Community and who must have known that the vast majority of that community were not represented is typical of the proponents of &quot;global warming&quot; or should we now call it &quot;climate change&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re geronimo.</p>
<p>The round robin signed by the &#8220;UK Science Community&#8221; looks impressive at first glance.    Until one looks at just how many scientists did not sign it.   I looked through the list to see which of my friends and acquaintances, be they lecturers, professors or post-docs, had signed and could not see any of their names.  Then I noticed that several universities were missing.  City, Herriott Watt and Buckingham are more highly respected than a number of the former polytechnics whose acadmics and students signed the round robin.<br />
The arrogance of those who purported to represent the UK Science Community and who must have known that the vast majority of that community were not represented is typical of the proponents of &#8220;global warming&#8221; or should we now call it &#8220;climate change&#8221;.</p>
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