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	<title>Comments on: Cicerone Then and Now</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Not really</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/02/04/cicerone-then-and-now/#comment-229111</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Not really]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, not really. Seitz is going to be remembered for going off the rails on the climate issue and being wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, not really. Seitz is going to be remembered for going off the rails on the climate issue and being wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Neal McBurnett</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/02/04/cicerone-then-and-now/#comment-225711</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neal McBurnett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 05:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for putting up a freely and openly available copy of the editorial by Ralph J. Cicerone in Science magazine &quot;Ensuring Integrity in Science&quot; at http://www.climateaudit.info/pdf/news/cicerone.2010.pdf

Note that the abstract is here: 
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/327/5966/624]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for putting up a freely and openly available copy of the editorial by Ralph J. Cicerone in Science magazine &#8220;Ensuring Integrity in Science&#8221; at <a href="http://www.climateaudit.info/pdf/news/cicerone.2010.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.climateaudit.info/pdf/news/cicerone.2010.pdf</a></p>
<p>Note that the abstract is here:<br />
<a href="http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/327/5966/624" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/327/5966/624</a></p>
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		<title>By: Judith, I love ya, but you&#8217;re way wrong &#8230; &#171; Watts Up With That?</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/02/04/cicerone-then-and-now/#comment-223620</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Judith, I love ya, but you&#8217;re way wrong &#8230; &#171; Watts Up With That?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] And you still don’t seem to get it. You approvingly quote Ralph Cicerone about the importance of transparency … Cicerone?? That’s a sick joke. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And you still don’t seem to get it. You approvingly quote Ralph Cicerone about the importance of transparency … Cicerone?? That’s a sick joke. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Willis Eschenbach&#8217;s Reply to Dr. Curry &#171; Things I Find Interesting</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/02/04/cicerone-then-and-now/#comment-223570</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Willis Eschenbach&#8217;s Reply to Dr. Curry &#171; Things I Find Interesting]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] And you still don’t seem to get it. You approvingly quote Ralph Cicerone about the importance of transparency … Cicerone?? That’s a sick joke.  [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And you still don’t seem to get it. You approvingly quote Ralph Cicerone about the importance of transparency … Cicerone?? That’s a sick joke.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Grumpy Old Man</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/02/04/cicerone-then-and-now/#comment-220716</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grumpy Old Man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Eric.   This is the way bureaucrats are taught to write.  It avoids the taking or giving of responsibility and allows the bureaucrat to maintain the fiction of being an advisor to the Executive rather than being an executive himself.  This is why things happen in time-lines of glacial movement in bureaucracies.  If a bureaucrat makes a decision, terms of reference have been overstepped.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Eric.   This is the way bureaucrats are taught to write.  It avoids the taking or giving of responsibility and allows the bureaucrat to maintain the fiction of being an advisor to the Executive rather than being an executive himself.  This is why things happen in time-lines of glacial movement in bureaucracies.  If a bureaucrat makes a decision, terms of reference have been overstepped.</p>
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		<title>By: Weblog &#187; The Passive Voice and ClimateGate</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/02/04/cicerone-then-and-now/#comment-220665</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Weblog &#187; The Passive Voice and ClimateGate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] a comment of mine at Climate Audit about the President of the National Academy of [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a comment of mine at Climate Audit about the President of the National Academy of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Rasmusen</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/02/04/cicerone-then-and-now/#comment-220664</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Rasmusen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cicerone said, &quot;Clarity and transparency must be reinforced to build and maintain trust.&quot;

 That&#039;s a classic example of why the passive voice is bad writing style (sorry, scientists, I know you&#039;re taught to write badly on purpose).  It allows the writer to avoid saying WHO does the action. What we&#039;d like to see is:

&quot;Someone should reinforce Clarity and transparency  to build and maintain trust.&quot;

or, better, 

&quot;Authors of articles should reinforce clarity and transparency  to build and maintain trust.&quot;


or

&quot;Journal editors should reinforce clarity and transparency  to build and maintain trust.&quot;

or, better, 

&quot;The National Academy of Sciences should reinforce Clarity and transparency  to build and maintain trust.&quot;

 or, best,

&quot;I  should have reinforced clarity and transparency  to build and maintain trust.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cicerone said, &#8220;Clarity and transparency must be reinforced to build and maintain trust.&#8221;</p>
<p> That&#8217;s a classic example of why the passive voice is bad writing style (sorry, scientists, I know you&#8217;re taught to write badly on purpose).  It allows the writer to avoid saying WHO does the action. What we&#8217;d like to see is:</p>
<p>&#8220;Someone should reinforce Clarity and transparency  to build and maintain trust.&#8221;</p>
<p>or, better, </p>
<p>&#8220;Authors of articles should reinforce clarity and transparency  to build and maintain trust.&#8221;</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>&#8220;Journal editors should reinforce clarity and transparency  to build and maintain trust.&#8221;</p>
<p>or, better, </p>
<p>&#8220;The National Academy of Sciences should reinforce Clarity and transparency  to build and maintain trust.&#8221;</p>
<p> or, best,</p>
<p>&#8220;I  should have reinforced clarity and transparency  to build and maintain trust.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Another Layman Lurker</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/02/04/cicerone-then-and-now/#comment-220257</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Another Layman Lurker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.thegwpf.org/opinion-pros-a-cons/218-petr-chylek-open-letter-to-the-climate-research-community.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.thegwpf.org/opinion-pros-a-cons/218-petr-chylek-open-letter-to-the-climate-research-community.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thegwpf.org/opinion-pros-a-cons/218-petr-chylek-open-letter-to-the-climate-research-community.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: David L. Hagen</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/02/04/cicerone-then-and-now/#comment-220173</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David L. Hagen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 01:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To understand Cicerone&#039;s &quot;clarity and transparency must be reinforced to build and maintain trust&quot; see Terence Corcoran: &lt;a href=&quot;http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2010/02/06/terence-corcoran-if-the-ipcc-were-toyota.aspx#ixzz0eoLMgTDQ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;If the IPCC were Toyota&lt;/a&gt; February 06, 2010 National Post]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To understand Cicerone&#8217;s &#8220;clarity and transparency must be reinforced to build and maintain trust&#8221; see Terence Corcoran: <a href="http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2010/02/06/terence-corcoran-if-the-ipcc-were-toyota.aspx#ixzz0eoLMgTDQ" rel="nofollow">If the IPCC were Toyota</a> February 06, 2010 National Post</p>
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		<title>By: Top Posts &#8212; WordPress.com</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/02/04/cicerone-then-and-now/#comment-220149</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Top Posts &#8212; WordPress.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...]  Cicerone Then and Now Ralph Cicerone, President of the US National Academy of Sciences, has weighed in on the CRU and data sharing [...] [...]]]></description>
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