Comments on: Say My Name – February Rerun http://climateaudit.org/2010/02/06/say-my-name-%e2%80%93-february-rerun/ by Steve McIntyre Tue, 29 May 2012 02:29:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: McIntyre calls on PNAS & Michael Mann to issue retraction | Watts Up With That? http://climateaudit.org/2010/02/06/say-my-name-%e2%80%93-february-rerun/#comment-297542 Thu, 07 Jul 2011 05:14:09 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=10150#comment-297542 [...] Like Grand et al, Mann et al 2008 (M08) used contaminated data, in their case, the Finnish sediment data of Tiljander et al, the modern portion of which had been contaminated by agriculture and bridgebuilding. In addition to using the modern contaminated portion of the data, M08 made a second error by using the Tiljander lightsum and XRD upside down to the interpretation of its originators. Their handling of Tiljander data has been sharply criticized on different occasions by two eminent Finnish paleolimnologists – Atte Korhola here and Matti Saarnisto here. [...]

]]> By: Dirty Laundry II: Contaminated Sediments « Climate Audit http://climateaudit.org/2010/02/06/say-my-name-%e2%80%93-february-rerun/#comment-297434 Wed, 06 Jul 2011 15:56:17 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=10150#comment-297434 [...] Like Grand et al, Mann et al 2008 (M08) used contaminated data, in their case, the Finnish sediment data of Tiljander et al, the modern portion of which had been contaminated by agriculture and bridgebuilding. In addition to using the modern contaminated portion of the data, M08 made a second error by using the Tiljander lightsum and XRD upside down to the interpretation of its originators. Their handling of Tiljander data has been sharply criticized on different occasions by two eminent Finnish paleolimnologists – Atte Korhola here and Matti Saarnisto here. [...]

]]> By: Ruth http://climateaudit.org/2010/02/06/say-my-name-%e2%80%93-february-rerun/#comment-221017 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:38:07 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=10150#comment-221017 Re: Ruth (Feb 11 09:36),

Sorry, it’s p 735 (Nature 11 Feb 2010)

]]> By: Ruth http://climateaudit.org/2010/02/06/say-my-name-%e2%80%93-february-rerun/#comment-221016 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:36:21 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=10150#comment-221016 OT, but relevant, I think!

From this week’s Nature – a book review about the difficulty of earthquake prediction(p755): “As examples of scientific integrity, some spectacular prediction failures win accolades of praise. After being made aware of a flaw in their promising method for predicting earthquakes, for example, the proponents of the ‘accelerating moment release’ theory were enthusiastic in refuting their own idea.”

It’s sad that this should be noteworthy.

]]> By: Ted L. http://climateaudit.org/2010/02/06/say-my-name-%e2%80%93-february-rerun/#comment-220570 Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:01:10 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=10150#comment-220570 Literally, it means “little circle goes around.” It’s from a Finnish nursery rhyme you sing when you are going around in a circle with a group of friends. (Direct translation from my Finnish son-in-law)

]]> By: Deputyheadmistress http://climateaudit.org/2010/02/06/say-my-name-%e2%80%93-february-rerun/#comment-220559 Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:07:00 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=10150#comment-220559 Since the point of the piiri pieni pyörii game reference appears to be reciprocity, may I suggest ‘pat-a-cake?’ The two games are played differently, but in English we might make the same point by saying something like this group of scientists are reviewing each other’s papers in a sort of round robin game of pat-a-cake. That’s what it reminds *me* of, anyway.

DHM- Not a scientist, but I am a mom to seven, grandmama to one, and unofficial weekend foster parent to two, so I am something of an expert on children’s games and nursery rhymes.=)

]]> By: Jimchip http://climateaudit.org/2010/02/06/say-my-name-%e2%80%93-february-rerun/#comment-220531 Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:00:35 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=10150#comment-220531 Re: WillR (Feb 8 09:22),

A bunch of buses driving around in circles, players in the center…Watch who throws who under the bus first? meh.

]]> By: WillR http://climateaudit.org/2010/02/06/say-my-name-%e2%80%93-february-rerun/#comment-220518 Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:22:37 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=10150#comment-220518 Circle Games — Take your pick…
Musical Chairs?

]]> By: MikeN http://climateaudit.org/2010/02/06/say-my-name-%e2%80%93-february-rerun/#comment-220241 Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:31:11 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=10150#comment-220241 Did you e-mail Science per Gavin’s instructions?

]]> By: MikeN http://climateaudit.org/2010/02/06/say-my-name-%e2%80%93-february-rerun/#comment-220236 Sun, 07 Feb 2010 09:46:59 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=10150#comment-220236 When I asked Kaufmann some questions, including why HU wasn’t acknowledged, and encouraged him to participate in CA. He ended up not doing so, and only answered a few questions. I didn’t say so, but at the time while I wished he had answered some more questions, I thought the failure to acknowledge Hu was pretty low and the only black mark on his behavior.

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