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		<title>By: PaulM</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/02/11/the-team-that-cant-shoot-straight/#comment-221763</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-221745&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nick Scott Plummer (Feb 15 06:11)&lt;/a&gt;, 
Nick, it is encouraging to see that Channel 4 is reading Climate Audit!  I hope Channel 4 News will run something on the Geoffrey Boulton story?  He now seems to be denying any bias, despite the fact that he spent 18 years at UEA, making the whole &#039;Independent Review&#039; a farce.  Yes it has been a busy time and things are moving fast, but you guys must be used to this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-221745" rel="nofollow">Nick Scott Plummer (Feb 15 06:11)</a>,<br />
Nick, it is encouraging to see that Channel 4 is reading Climate Audit!  I hope Channel 4 News will run something on the Geoffrey Boulton story?  He now seems to be denying any bias, despite the fact that he spent 18 years at UEA, making the whole &#8216;Independent Review&#8217; a farce.  Yes it has been a busy time and things are moving fast, but you guys must be used to this.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Scott Plummer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick Scott Plummer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Pat,

Apologies only picking up this thread very late.  It&#039;s been a busy few days...  It&#039;s not for me to comment on my colleague Tom Clarke&#039;s choice of words, but as the producer working to the climate emails story, rest assured that we are pursuing all angles and with an open mind.  Our news editors are very keen that we keep the pressure and scrutiny up on the whole area of climate science both at UEA and at the IPCC.

Regards


Nick Scott Plummer
Science Producer - Channel 4 News
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Pat,</p>
<p>Apologies only picking up this thread very late.  It&#8217;s been a busy few days&#8230;  It&#8217;s not for me to comment on my colleague Tom Clarke&#8217;s choice of words, but as the producer working to the climate emails story, rest assured that we are pursuing all angles and with an open mind.  Our news editors are very keen that we keep the pressure and scrutiny up on the whole area of climate science both at UEA and at the IPCC.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Nick Scott Plummer<br />
Science Producer &#8211; Channel 4 News<br />
0044207833 3000 x 3149</p>
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		<title>By: John Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Murphy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 12:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can anyone tell me if teh Russell inquiry is open to the public?  Are the transcripts to be published daily?

If not, it&#039;s a whitewash.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone tell me if teh Russell inquiry is open to the public?  Are the transcripts to be published daily?</p>
<p>If not, it&#8217;s a whitewash.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 00:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: C.W. Schoneveld</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[C.W. Schoneveld]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 19:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a pity that Philip Campbell has seen fit to withdraw from the committee; he could have explained the workings of the pal review system better than anyone else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a pity that Philip Campbell has seen fit to withdraw from the committee; he could have explained the workings of the pal review system better than anyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimchip</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jimchip]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Conflicts of Interest, Independence, Objectivity (if that&#039;s still a viable concept today) are crucially important. Campbell was a poor choice and the choice might say something about how well-informed the other committee members were, going into the investigation. However, it was not necessarily a mistake having a Nature editor on &#039;the (new) team&#039; &lt;---last time I&#039;m typing (new).

Nature has quite a history with all of this and sometimes it is prudent to have a Trustworthy insider on investigation committees so that they are privy to the whole story, can help with the investigation, and can take ethical and appropriate action after the public conclusions are announced. I want to ignore the fact that the choice was Campbell so I can remain optimistic but I can&#039;t ignore facts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conflicts of Interest, Independence, Objectivity (if that&#8217;s still a viable concept today) are crucially important. Campbell was a poor choice and the choice might say something about how well-informed the other committee members were, going into the investigation. However, it was not necessarily a mistake having a Nature editor on &#8216;the (new) team&#8217; &lt;&#8212;last time I&#039;m typing (new).</p>
<p>Nature has quite a history with all of this and sometimes it is prudent to have a Trustworthy insider on investigation committees so that they are privy to the whole story, can help with the investigation, and can take ethical and appropriate action after the public conclusions are announced. I want to ignore the fact that the choice was Campbell so I can remain optimistic but I can&#039;t ignore facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimchip</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jimchip]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-221273&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Steve McIntyre (Feb 12 11:02)&lt;/a&gt;, 

I&#039;ve been having a hard time with the questions. Some are just too narrowly focused and I worry that if the focus is maintained that the context will be lost. However, responses can&#039;t be too broad, either. Perhaps that&#039;s a warning to anyone writing submissions. I&#039;m not, and that&#039;s good, &#039;cuz I wouldn&#039;t be able to walk the tightrope.

&lt;strong&gt;Steve: &lt;/strong&gt;  The questions are a big issue for me.  Do these guys even know how to run an inquiry .. an inquiry should look like a legal process, not a term paper. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-221273" rel="nofollow">Steve McIntyre (Feb 12 11:02)</a>, </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been having a hard time with the questions. Some are just too narrowly focused and I worry that if the focus is maintained that the context will be lost. However, responses can&#8217;t be too broad, either. Perhaps that&#8217;s a warning to anyone writing submissions. I&#8217;m not, and that&#8217;s good, &#8216;cuz I wouldn&#8217;t be able to walk the tightrope.</p>
<p><strong>Steve: </strong>  The questions are a big issue for me.  Do these guys even know how to run an inquiry .. an inquiry should look like a legal process, not a term paper. </p>
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		<title>By: Jimchip</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jimchip]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-221213&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Steven Mosher (Feb 11 23:52)&lt;/a&gt;,

And everybody remember that Lamb figure from the early IPCC?

If it&#039;s the one I think it is, even the CRUTeam couldn&#039;t remember where that figure came from. Serious email conundrum for them on that issue. I&#039;m sure they were telling Nature, &quot;Not a problem, just a figure, not peer-reviewed, data good, not a problem...&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-221213" rel="nofollow">Steven Mosher (Feb 11 23:52)</a>,</p>
<p>And everybody remember that Lamb figure from the early IPCC?</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s the one I think it is, even the CRUTeam couldn&#8217;t remember where that figure came from. Serious email conundrum for them on that issue. I&#8217;m sure they were telling Nature, &#8220;Not a problem, just a figure, not peer-reviewed, data good, not a problem&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Hansen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Hansen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If one has a habit of shooting oneself in the foot, one should avoid the habit of putting ones foot in ones mouth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If one has a habit of shooting oneself in the foot, one should avoid the habit of putting ones foot in ones mouth.</p>
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		<title>By: David A</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David A]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 02:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe they could explain the difference between hacked and stolen, and why they never state leaked.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe they could explain the difference between hacked and stolen, and why they never state leaked.</p>
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