Comments on: Met Office Proposes Verifiable Temperature Data Set

By: Met Office proposes to make Data Set Verifiable - EcoWho

Met Office proposes to make Data Set Verifiable - EcoWho — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 04:08:04 +0000

[...] Office want to put in place a collation of station data that is publicly accessible. As reported in CA and FoxNews, with the proposal here it looks like the Met Office wants to make a central repository [...]

By: Richard Drake

Richard Drake — Sun, 28 Feb 2010 07:39:29 +0000

It was somebody else who said it first, obviously.

By: Richard Drake

Richard Drake — Sun, 28 Feb 2010 07:33:54 +0000

Sorry to all three that I only read this little section after my latest comment about open source. Five days behind the pace, that’s me! The Reproducible Research link is very helpful thanks, MrPete. I don’t at all think the problems are insurmountable, Andy. Among the things required are

1. A repository that is very easily ‘forked’ to give an alternative point of view (Git has emphasized this within the open source world recently but I’m talking more broadly). Then you’d be free in research to refer to the branch that you prefer – of course giving reasons.

2. Identities of contributors known and discoverable by anyone, for all changes.

The last one isn’t always true of open source projects – especially for someone new to the project (core committers are almost always known by each other).

By: Richard Drake

Richard Drake — Sun, 28 Feb 2010 07:10:47 +0000

You make it sound as if it could be organised like an open source software project. Hang on, that’s not a bad idea …

By: sky

sky — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 01:01:50 +0000

Despite lip service to data transparency, the Met’s uncritical endorsement of “homogenization”–i.e., the transformation of measured values into manufactured ones–troubles me greatly. As long as the liberties taken with raw data are not curtailed, we will not know what the intruments are actually telling us. I propose that this whole process be called “pasteurization,” because that’s where they’ve been cooking the books via patent trend-management techniques.

By: Niche Modeling » Vindication

Niche Modeling » Vindication — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:05:58 +0000

[...] another stunning vindication of Steve McIntyre, the Met Dept are proposing to take over global temperature data from the CRU. Steve has of course been railing for years about the sloppy, good old boys science in Jones’ [...]

By: toby

toby — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:54:11 +0000

This is good, because it is well known among climate scientists that the average world temperature rise, based on the data used up until now, is an UNDERESTIMATE.

http://climateprogress.org/2010/02/25/met-office-re-examine-of-climate-data-temperature-record/#more-19990

By: GP

GP — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:41:54 +0000

I have to say that that was my initial impression. Nothing has yet changed my mind.

One might imagine that the train would be detained at a stop light for a while, funding for progress deferred. What better way to unlock the cash flow once again, with minimal new effort, than suggesting a repeat of what had gone before but with added eye candy?

By: Paul G

Paul G — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:10:23 +0000

From the UK “Daily Telegraph”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/7309688/Met-Office-to-look-again-at-global-warming-records.html
“The new analysis, that will take three years, will not only provide a more detailed picture of global warming but boost public confidence in the science of climate change.”

“Vicky Pope, Head of Climate Change Advice, at the Met Office, said the new global temperature analyses would not change the trend of global warming.”

So they have decided the result of this “new analysis” before it has even started.

No wonder public confidence in climate “science” is at an all-time low.

By: R.S.Brown

R.S.Brown — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 07:27:46 +0000

Glenra,

In the 1877/1878 report start on pdf page 233 (report page 228)for the daily max, min, mean temps for Albany, N.Y., followed by Alpena, Mich., going along to Yuma, Arizona (Territory) on pdf page 339, (report page 394).