Comments on: Hand “Praised” McIntyre of Climate Audit http://climateaudit.org/2010/04/14/hand-praised-mcintyre-of-climate-audit/ by Steve McIntyre Mon, 20 May 2013 09:05:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Ray Tomes http://climateaudit.org/2010/04/14/hand-praised-mcintyre-of-climate-audit/#comment-229456 Mon, 03 May 2010 23:19:55 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=10721#comment-229456 Steve writes “While I appreciate the compliment, I wonder what authority Hand has for his assertion that I claimed “Mann’s methods have “created” the hockey stick from data that does not contain it” – this is obviously untrue.”

I have read somewhere on this blog that one of Mann’s programs outputs a hockey stick shaped result regardless of what data is fed into it. Was that comment by Steve? I thought so. It seems that this is what Hand refers to.

]]> By: Another “investigation” concludes with a whitewashing « CO2 Realist http://climateaudit.org/2010/04/14/hand-praised-mcintyre-of-climate-audit/#comment-228180 Sun, 18 Apr 2010 16:49:53 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=10721#comment-228180 [...] Hand “Praised” McIntyre of Climate Audit [...]

]]> By: George Steiner http://climateaudit.org/2010/04/14/hand-praised-mcintyre-of-climate-audit/#comment-228038 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:02:15 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=10721#comment-228038 This post summarizes the state of climate science. A says there is a hockey stick. B says the hockey stick is a kind of principal component fiction. C says there is a hockey stick but not as long as A says. Interminable arguments about the validity the magnitude the existence or non existence of data, tree rings, temperatures, ice cores, proxies. Ad infinitum.

Does anyone remember the original question? No? It concerns man made CO2’s effect on the climate. It is the intellectual poverty of climate science that almost everyone talks about data and its manipulation. Few if any about what actually maters.

]]> By: mccall http://climateaudit.org/2010/04/14/hand-praised-mcintyre-of-climate-audit/#comment-227942 Thu, 15 Apr 2010 21:38:16 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=10721#comment-227942 We are speaking of the same statistician… he was the North (belatedly sworn-in) stat expert, who only ack’ed agreement with Wegman (re: the wrong-doing) under cross.

]]> By: Sonicfrog http://climateaudit.org/2010/04/14/hand-praised-mcintyre-of-climate-audit/#comment-227926 Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:48:27 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=10721#comment-227926 Might help if I provide a link…. Here and Here.

]]> By: Sonicfrog http://climateaudit.org/2010/04/14/hand-praised-mcintyre-of-climate-audit/#comment-227922 Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:40:41 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=10721#comment-227922 I’m curious, is Peter Bloomfield the same Bloomfield mentioned in this CA post? If so would it have any relevance?

]]> By: Manfred http://climateaudit.org/2010/04/14/hand-praised-mcintyre-of-climate-audit/#comment-227820 Thu, 15 Apr 2010 14:38:40 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=10721#comment-227820 Professor Hand possibly requires only a little bit more information to turn him from somebody who thinks the hockey stick was exaggerated into someone who thinks it is no hockey stick at all.

]]> By: Stacey http://climateaudit.org/2010/04/14/hand-praised-mcintyre-of-climate-audit/#comment-227812 Thu, 15 Apr 2010 13:12:15 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=10721#comment-227812 Steve
You may wish to correct the spelling of Louise Gray’s name.

]]> By: EdeF http://climateaudit.org/2010/04/14/hand-praised-mcintyre-of-climate-audit/#comment-227796 Thu, 15 Apr 2010 06:30:55 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=10721#comment-227796 It could be a 5-wood, or as they now say, a 5-metal.

Most of the stick is the result of the Bristlecones and the mining algorithm.

]]> By: Anthony Watts http://climateaudit.org/2010/04/14/hand-praised-mcintyre-of-climate-audit/#comment-227781 Thu, 15 Apr 2010 03:18:57 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=10721#comment-227781 Steve – talk to the Hand

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