GISS: Warmest March ever in Finland

A year and half ago Steve recalled some encounters with NASA GISS. One could imagine that after all that embarrassment the quality control in GISS temperature products was by now highly improved. One could be also wrong.

In the March 2010 GISS temperature anomaly map Finland appears as a “hot spot” surrounded by cold temperatures:

GISS station values are even more spectacular, the warmest March on record is set in every Finnish station GISS is following. For instance, according to GISS, the mean March temperature in Sodankylä (61402836000) was a remarkable +1.5 °C beating the old record (-2.2 °C) from 1920 by 3.7 °C!

Well, according to the Finnish Meteorological Institute, March 2010 was colder than usual all over Finland, especially in the northern part. For instance, the mean temperature in Sodankylä was -10.3 °C, which is almost three degrees below the base period 1971-2000 average (-7.5 °C). So the GISS March value for Sodankylä is off by amazing 11.8 °C!

Some quality control, please!

h/t: Leone

91 Comments

  1. Michael Jankowski
    Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 10:12 AM | Permalink | Reply

    When there are blocks on the grid that are 4 to 9.7 deg above the baseline and they are immediately adjacent to blocks that are -.5 to -1 deg or even -1 to -2 deg relative the baseline, that should be a telltale sign something is probably amiss.

  2. timetochooseagain
    Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 10:22 AM | Permalink | Reply

    This is a real “WTF?” moment for GISS. One wonders how often this kind of thing happens and doesn’t get noticed.

    One also wonders if they tend to go in one direction or are random. This is why these data sets need to be open and the underlying data and code publicly available. If it isn’t, we may never find out how frequent these errors are or what effect they may have on the records.

  3. Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 10:22 AM | Permalink | Reply

    and the standard response:

    1. Finland represents less than 1% of the worlds surface, therefore
    any mistakes make no difference. this excuse can be made
    virtually any time. In fact, there is no requirement to get any
    country correct.
    2. Whatever warm bias errors there are , they will be cancelled
    by the magic of the LLN. Cool biases are sure to exist and perfectly cancel the warm biases

    3. Do your own damn science.

    4. Oil shill!

    • timetochooseagain
      Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 10:40 AM | Permalink | Reply

      The response to that should be “until we have a full blown audit, we won’t know if it’s just Finland, we won’t know if it makes no difference. But we MUST have a complete audit, otherwise there will be nothing but doubt over the reliability of the results.”

    • Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 11:18 AM | Permalink | Reply

      Mosh, Yep!

    • Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 12:58 PM | Permalink | Reply

      Why can’t “oil shill” be number 1?
      Then the other three wouldn’t be needed.

    • Bob McDonald
      Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 2:58 PM | Permalink | Reply

      I think they simply added a few degrees. No error or problem with methodology. Just simple fudging of the data.

    • geronimo
      Posted Apr 16, 2010 at 2:36 AM | Permalink | Reply

      In cold periods the Finns are noted for their habit of sitting in roasting hot saunas until near death by heat exhaustion then rolling about in the snow until cool and flagellating themselves with twigs. The cold March would have activated more of this so GISS were probably didn’t account for the Sauna Heat Island Temperature effect.

      • stephen richards
        Posted Apr 16, 2010 at 4:41 AM | Permalink | Reply

        A ex colleague of mine worked in Finland for a couple of years. He told me it was so damn dark and cold all winter that they just drank loads of vodka so they didn’t notice. That’s maybe what GISS did as well.

  4. Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 10:25 AM | Permalink | Reply

    It isn’t just ‘some quality control’ which is needed – one wonders if anybody at the GISS computers is actually capable of using their common sense.
    Does it not ring a bell when there is such a divergence between their shiny model and the actual data by the Finnish Meteorological Institute, which is most certainly not an amateur observer somewhere in the sticks?

    This shows nicely that for certain people computer models beat reality.

  5. Mark C
    Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 10:33 AM | Permalink | Reply

    To be fair, the quality has been quite well controlled, and is now nearly absent from the product. Gavin should be able to extinguish any remaining quality in the coming months.

    • Sean
      Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 12:06 PM | Permalink | Reply

      Excellent!!

  6. Craig Loehle
    Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 10:54 AM | Permalink | Reply

    What makes anyone think that GISS staff even look at the output maps?

    • David Jay
      Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 8:11 PM | Permalink | Reply

      Craig:

      You better believe that they would look it over if the output maps were all BLUE!

      • Brooks Hurd
        Posted Apr 16, 2010 at 1:53 PM | Permalink | Reply

        If they were all blue, it would most likely have caused an adjustment.

  7. Benjamin
    Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 11:00 AM | Permalink | Reply

    It seems to me that there are many terra incognita (grey) on that temperature map, and we are in 2010.

    How would it have looked like in 1900 or even 1950 ? And how can “homogeneisation” be done with so little data ?

    • Nick Stokes
      Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 2:13 PM | Permalink | Reply

      Re: Benjamin (Apr 15 11:00), The map represents data that has come in by 12 April. The grey will diminish as new data gets posted.

      • Mike Davis
        Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 3:57 PM | Permalink | Reply

        Nick:
        They have not yet increased the size of the grids to eliminate the grey!

    • Bob McDonald
      Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 3:05 PM | Permalink | Reply

      “And how can “homogeneisation” be done with so little data ?”

      You put the blender on “frappe”.

  8. Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 11:11 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Jim Hansen and his fellow court jesters have recently posted a preprint of their latest paper.

    Pages 25-27 on “data flaws” are particularly interesting in the light of Jean’s revelation. It talks of the Y2k error and the Russian 2008 error – with no mention of CA of course. They even get the description of the error wrong (they say the Nov data was a duplication of Oct, but it was Oct/Sept). Can they get anything right?

    Then there is this paragraph:

    This data flaw led to another round of fraud accusations on talk shows and other media. Another lesson learned. Since then, to minimize misinformation, we first put our monthly analyzed data up on a site that is not visible to the public. This allows several scientists to examine graphs of the data for potential flaws. If anything seems questionable, we report it back to the data providers for their resolution.

    I wonder who these ‘several scientists’ are? Clearly the process is not working, they have not learned any lessons, and they can look forward to further ridicule.

  9. windansea
    Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 11:25 AM | Permalink | Reply

    if GISS gets it this wrong in a modern country with a competent national weather service, why would anyone have confidence in all the temperatures that are “estimated or extrapolated” for areas like the artic?

  10. Paul Penrose
    Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 11:27 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Nothing to see here. Move along.

  11. Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 11:39 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Could it just be a data handling error? Does anyone have temp datasets from FMI to compare with the GISS data?

    -Sale

  12. RomanM
    Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 12:06 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Interestingly, the error only appears in the “combined” version of the GISS data linked above by Jean.

    If you ask for the “raw” version or the “homogenised” version, March is 999.9 = not available.

    • Mike Davis
      Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 4:03 PM | Permalink | Reply

      Roman:
      That explains it! Eliminate the first two 9s and you have the GISS temperature 9.9C ;-)

  13. Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 12:11 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Looks like GISS fixed it: They have posted a News bulletin on the GISTEMP homepage:
    2010-04-15: The data shown between 4/13 and 4/15 were based on data downloaded on 4/12 and included some station reports from Finland in which the minus sign may have been dropped. NOAA updated GHCN on 4/13 by removing those data and we updated our displays today. The March 2010 global mean temperature was affected by about 2/100 of a degree Celsius, well below the margin of error (about 15/100 of a degree for monthly global means).

    • Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 12:27 PM | Permalink | Reply

      Re: Fred Nieuwenhuis (Apr 15 12:11),
      Ahh, that explains it, of course, the difference between +1.5 and -10.3 is just a minus sign!

    • Pat Frank
      Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 7:24 PM | Permalink | Reply

      Thanks for the explanatory update, Fred. But let’s notice the obscurantist way the correction was noted. The dropped minus signs were said to affect the “global mean temperature by a mere 0.02 C.

      They’ve minimized the apparent error by smearing it all over the globe. Nothing is said about how the errors affected the mean Finnish March 2010 temperature. We can suppose that if the error had not been caught, the falsely warm Finnish Spring would have been yet more evidence of AGW.

    • Pat Frank
      Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 7:40 PM | Permalink | Reply

      Actually, if we scale the 0.02 C error by the ratio (Earth surface area)/(Finland surface area), we can approximate the error in the March 2010 Finland temperature. So, that’s 0.02 C*(5.1*10^8/3.38*10^5)=30 C (areas in km^2). Quite an error.

    • Michael Jankowski
      Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 7:42 PM | Permalink | Reply

      Credit to climateaudit, of course.

      Oh wait…must have been Gavin’s “mystery man.”

  14. Chris M
    Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 12:12 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Hey all, new guy here although I’ve been reading CA for the past couple years.

    I have to agree with Sauli that this looks like some sort of handling error, where perhaps data was missing the “minus” character when entered into the map. Not to deride any current/former US Government employees here, but is it really any surprise that a government agency could be staffed with people who really don’t care to get it right? In my personal experience, they tend to outnumber the ones who do in fact make an effort.

    • Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 10:35 PM | Permalink | Reply

      It’s not unprecedented for NASA to make such mistakes:


      The thrusters on the spacecraft, which were intended to control its rate of rotation, were controlled by a computer that underestimated the effect of the thrusters by a factor of 4.45. This is the ratio between a pound force–the standard unit of force in the imperial system–and a newton, the standard unit in the metric system. The software was working in pounds force, while the spacecraft expected figures in newtons; 1 pound force equals approximately 4.45 newtons.

      Source: Wikipedia

  15. Duster
    Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 12:15 PM | Permalink | Reply

    It is almost certainly due to gridding and the stations used, or not used as the case may be. I can’t see the point of gridding except for the sake of pictures. The process takes precisely measured point data and then averages it in some fashion with other data from farther away, coming up with effectively imaginary values (estimates) for grid cells that are only vaguely related to the original, precise data. The gridded maps then are presented and give an illusion of “completeness” of information that can be illusory.

    • Willis Eschenbach
      Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 2:12 PM | Permalink | Reply

      Duster, some kind of gridding is necessary. Suppose we have ten temperature stations in a small warm area, and one station some distance away in a cooler area. A plain average doesn’t give the correct picture, because the one station will not affect the average much.

      I’m in the process of doing a monte carlo study of using cluster analysis rather than gridding as the basis for the averaging. So far I have shown that it performs as well as gridding when the data points are randomly distributed. My next move will be to see how it performs when they are clustered. If I have any success I’ll post about it here.

      • Bob McDonald
        Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 2:56 PM | Permalink | Reply

        Make the grids smaller. Don’t over sample a region while under-sampling adjacent regions.

        This is simple stuff.

  16. Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 12:22 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I don’t think these people know the meaning of quality control. Maybe they learned what they know from the auto industry. When you have a flawed methodology in the first place it is very hard to pick up these little glitches. Perhaps it is simply a cost saving measure. Let volunteers from find your problems for you. Then you can pick and choose which ones to accept or reject.

  17. Garry
    Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 12:26 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Hey, it’s only settled science! Who cares about those silly and inconsequential divergences?

    Even more, it’s Post-Normal Science ™ and so a few degrees on or off should not affect the extended facts. Right?

    • Bruce
      Posted Apr 17, 2010 at 10:13 AM | Permalink | Reply

      It’s settled science. “Science” that’s been allowed to settle after being cooked each month.

  18. Cloneof
    Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 12:34 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I don’t know, in the past few days there has really being a heat wave here. All the snow diseappeared under few days last week here in the south.

    • Uredrra
      Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM | Permalink | Reply

      The data is from March, not April. ;)

      • Cloneof
        Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 1:54 PM | Permalink | Reply

        Oh, okay.

        Then it is weird!

      • DeNihilist
        Posted Apr 17, 2010 at 12:28 PM | Permalink | Reply

        So Uredrra, you mean to say that GISS is now predicting temps?

        Awesome!

  19. Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 1:54 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Whether the correction is/was made to april/march data, the .txt-file still shows 1.5 for March 2010, not -1.5, etc. When to they update the datasets in the .txt files?

    This is the one I’m looking at: http://data.giss.nasa.gov/work/gistemp/STATIONS//tmp.614028360003.1.1/station.txt

    -Sale

    • Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 1:58 PM | Permalink | Reply

      …which brings to mind the question whether the minus sign has been dropped from other stations, in other countries around the world. Is there any way to check? Comparing each station’s records to GISS records?

      -Sale

  20. Bernie
    Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 2:19 PM | Permalink | Reply

    The Satellite data suggests that there may be other issues with the GISS data. See http://pielkeclimatesci.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/0310.jpg

  21. UK John
    Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 2:26 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Vodoo Science?

  22. Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 2:39 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I just has to be a simple error. I quickly went over monthly average temps 1951-2010 and compared these two:

    http://www.fmi.fi/saa/tilastot_57.html#7 (the lower image pertains to Sodankylä) and
    http://data.giss.nasa.gov/work/gistemp/STATIONS//tmp.614028360003.1.1/station.txt

    The last line of the GISS dataset is the only one that has an aberrant figure for march 2010.

    • DeNihilist
      Posted Apr 17, 2010 at 12:32 PM | Permalink | Reply

      Looking at that map you can almost see the path of the jet streams, in cooler/nuetral shades.

  23. Paul
    Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 2:49 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Finland was the only place where Crimson (+++) was adjacent to a blue tone (–). Would be surprising to find such a huge change in such a small region.

    Looks like the current map is much different:
    http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/do_nmap.py?year_last=2010&month_last=3&sat=4&sst=3&type=anoms&mean_gen=03&year1=2010&year2=2010&base1=1971&base2=2000&radius=250&pol=reg

    • Bob McDonald
      Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 3:02 PM | Permalink | Reply

      Maybe Finland found an effective and inexpensive way to warm up the country and just haven’t shared the new technology with the rest of the world.

      That could explain it.

  24. MattN
    Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 3:00 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Comical. If this stuff wasn’t so important, I would be laughing…

  25. Ken Hatfield
    Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 3:23 PM | Permalink | Reply

    GISS has apparently corrected the Finland anomaly. See:

    http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/do_nmap.py?year_last=2010&month_last=3&sat=4&sst=1&type=anoms&mean_gen=03&year1=2010&year2=2010&base1=1971&base2=2000&radius=250&pol=reg

    • Ken Hatfield
      Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 3:26 PM | Permalink | Reply

      Presumably doing so makes March even a little warmer than before?

      • Paul
        Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 3:50 PM | Permalink | Reply

        Nope. The correction means that the measured temperature anomaly for Finland is a shift to colder.

    • Posted Apr 16, 2010 at 2:21 PM | Permalink | Reply

      With no h/t to CA or Jean, let alone an indication that a correction has been made, that I can see.

  26. R.S.Brown
    Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 3:45 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I’m intrigued that for March nearly ALL of the inland area of Antarctica was 2 – 4 degrees centigrade
    warmer compared to the 1971 – 2000 baseline period.

    That nearly doubles the global surface with a 2 – 4 degree anomaly for that month.

    • Paul
      Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 4:06 PM | Permalink | Reply

      Yeah. And aren’t the polar regions the places that “really matter”? Inhabited areas have lots of seasonal temperature variation and long term fluctuation. 2 – 4 degree centigrade increases at the poles would seem to be worthy of attention.

      Note: I have no detailed knowledge of any of the scientific work in this field. This is only opinion.

  27. Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 3:48 PM | Permalink | Reply

    “Some quality control, please!”

    Uh, why should they start now – they’ve been doing quite well (in the media and public’s eyes, anyway) without it so far.

    I see that they appear to have “corrected” this error as shown by Ken Hatfield’s link.

    May have been a glitch in their program that required a manual correction?

    Good to see that actual observations are being used to correct possible programming errors, isn’t it?

  28. Andrew
    Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 3:48 PM | Permalink | Reply

    The chart linked to for Sodankylä in the main post shows mean annnual temperature, not mean March temperature. Following the link to the underlying data, the mean annual temperature for 2009 is 1.05. The data as yet contains no figure for March 2010 but records Feb 2010 as -17.5, and March 2009 as -7.0. I can’t conjecture where you got the figure of 1.5 for March 2010.

    • PaulM
      Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 4:49 PM | Permalink | Reply

      Andrew, the reason you can’t see the 1.5 figure is that GISS have deleted it and replaced it by a 999 since Jean pointed out their mistake.

      • Andrew
        Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 6:54 PM | Permalink | Reply

        Oh, fair enough. But if the latest data has values of 999 for March, what are they using to generate the new map without a hot Finland?

        • Posted Apr 16, 2010 at 1:22 PM | Permalink

          It seems that the correction for this problem was a simple deletion of the March value. If you want the original .txt-datafile with 1.5 listed for March, drop me a line via email and I’ll send it over. This applies to anyone that wants the datafile that was downloaded yesterday, on April 15th 2010.

          You won’t even have to file a FOIA request for it ;)

  29. Hans Ekblom
    Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 3:52 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I live in the middle of Finland and I can assure you that
    March was extremly cold.
    Hasse

  30. P Solar
    Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 4:05 PM | Permalink | Reply

    OT

    I just wanted to post this idea somewhere visible before the AGW circus kicks in.

    Icelandic eruption leads to cooler summer in N. Europe. Sceptics remark yet another year of “absence of warming” since they are paid by big oil conspirators and DIRTY coal.

    Mann-made warmists say this does not disprove AGW, it is just a freak event temporarily hiding the undeniable , unprecedented , unrelenting global warming which is due to man burning fossil fuels and we need loads of nuclear NOW.

    In fact it proves AGW since more frequent, more extreme events like this volcano are EXACTLY is predicted by global warming computer models.

    The marked lack of volcanic activity over the last 20 years was irrelevant. That’s not the same , it’s just a denier myth.

    IPCC reports that it is very probably (95% confidence level) “tails we win, heads you loose.”

    /OT

    • P Solar
      Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 4:19 PM | Permalink | Reply

      Satire.

      re. unfounded claims about storm frequency.

  31. FrankK
    Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 4:16 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Well, go look at http://kenskingdom.wordpress.com/ to see how GISS has “modified” the temp data in Oz according to the site. Lowering 1930’s temps relative to the more recent for example.

    Looking at that gridded temp data – the east coast of Australia is cool but Tasmania is a “hot” spot. Nonsense, don’t believe it.

  32. P Solar
    Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 4:16 PM | Permalink | Reply

    [On topic]

    The probable cause of the Finland “unprecidented warming” will almost certainly be homogenisation similar to Darwin Zero.

    Every temperature drop is an anomaly that has been adjusted out. Every temperature rise is doubled for good measure.

    In order to maintain the charade in the face of the physical evidence, the “adjustments” will have to become more and more aberrant.

    Expect more of the same in sparse areas where a few stations may influence the average over a large area.

  33. mccall
    Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 4:30 PM | Permalink | Reply

    The GISS hot-side polar anomalies are in areas with little/no independent validation/verification. It’s the GISS T-base differentiator; GISS measures where no one else is looking.

  34. TAG
    Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 5:04 PM | Permalink | Reply

    With the Y2K bug, GISS published incorrect data for seven (7) years and no one noticed but Steve McIntyre. No one in NASA or the broader climate science field noticed.

    So the obvious questions are: “Are there reports, papers etc in the literature based on this incorrect data? Or does nobody acctually use this data?”

  35. phinniethewoo
    Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 5:07 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I think we deserve the complete traceback of how this happened.
    Did someone copied Fiji for Finland data?
    Why was the manual action needed? Was there a camera in the room when the fictitious data were overcopied. Wy was the camera switched off? This kind of stuff..

    Quality entertainment , please!

    Becoz we’re worth it!!

  36. geo
    Posted Apr 15, 2010 at 6:40 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I wonder if Gavin has already run over to report this as an independent find of his own, owing nothing to Climate Audit.

  37. Kan
    Posted Apr 16, 2010 at 12:16 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Here is how CRU handled missing data – this method was peer reviewed:

    http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=596&filename=1134497252.txt

  38. HG
    Posted Apr 16, 2010 at 2:37 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Am I doing something wrong?

    The link given in Jean’s article appears to point to a graph of ANNUAL mean temperatures at Sodankylä, and the underlying data at the time of writing at:

    http://data.giss.nasa.gov/work/gistemp/STATIONS//tmp.614028360003.1.1/station.txt

    doesn’t appear to have any data for March 2010.

    I can’t reproduce the global image in the article either. All I get is:

    http://xrl.us/bhhcb3 (Link to data.giss.nasa.gov).

    Help appreciated!

    • HG
      Posted Apr 16, 2010 at 3:07 AM | Permalink | Reply

      Ah, forget all that. I should have read the rest of the thread first ..

  39. Posted Apr 16, 2010 at 2:56 AM | Permalink | Reply

    It appears to have been a sign error. I speculate it could be a reporting error from the finnish side. It is common in Finnish spoken language to just say “11 degC”, while actually meaning “-11 degC”. It can be a bit confusing when temperatures are close to zero.

    • Posted Apr 16, 2010 at 3:11 AM | Permalink | Reply

      Re: Aslak Grinsted (Apr 16 02:56),
      If you change the sign of -10.5 you don’t get +1.5.

    • Jean S
      Posted Apr 16, 2010 at 4:24 AM | Permalink | Reply

      Re: Aslak Grinsted (Apr 16 02:56),
      C’mon, first, the Finnish language thing you are referring to does not apply to mean temperatures, only for reporting a particular cold temperature (“kymmenen astetta pakkasta”). Second, that type of speaking is hard to even (mis)translate to English; I doubt “Finnish side” is reporting their measurements in Finnish to NOAA/GISS. Third, I seriously hope that the measurements are not reported with speech communication.

      Fourth, and the most importantly, a simple sign error explanation does not seem to hold water. I checked all values (as I said in the post, all of them set a new record) reported by GISS, and the range was from +1.5 (Sodankylä) to something like +3.6 (Helsinki). The true values are in the range from -1.8 (Helsinki) to -10.3 (Sodankylä), i.e., the dynamical range of the actual values is much larger.

      Also the News item at GISS web page is IMO very worry some. It indicates that these absolutely crazy values passed both GISS and NOAA checks. A simple comparison with, e.g., GHCN-daily (which caries Helsinki, Jyväskylä, Jokioinen, and Sodankylä) should have revealed this problem.

  40. Posted Apr 16, 2010 at 4:07 AM | Permalink | Reply

    I was wondering all this time why the Finns weren’t coming out of their saunas this winter. This clears everything up.

  41. Gerald Machnee
    Posted Apr 16, 2010 at 9:56 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Great work Jean. If they missed a big one, how would they find the smaller ones?

  42. Boris
    Posted Apr 16, 2010 at 11:25 AM | Permalink | Reply

    OMG!!!! They took three whole days to correct this error!?!? Jim Hansen should be replaced by Anthony Watts immediately!!!

    • Keith Herbert
      Posted Apr 16, 2010 at 12:38 PM | Permalink | Reply

      It seems though they didn’t correct it due to their own internal review process (which missed the error).

      Are they relying on the public to review their work in lieu of their own quality control, or do they believe errors of this sort are insignificant?

  43. Posted Apr 16, 2010 at 1:54 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Somehow I just find this sad.

    Well, sad and fairly frustrating. If we were to seriously depend on these well-known, top professionals that supply a seriously large part of the world with temperature data upon which, if not in whole, but at least in majort part, the global average temperatures are calculated, it brings to mind too many serious and disturbing questions that I’m not going to ask a single one.

    Oh wait, it’s not an “if”.

    -Sale, Finland

  44. B.Wolf
    Posted Apr 17, 2010 at 8:55 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Dutch climatesite http://www.klimaatgek.nl did some good work on the matter. Only disadvantage is the language…you need to translate it.

  45. Stephan
    Posted Apr 18, 2010 at 1:29 AM | Permalink | Reply

    This may be bigger than Climategate, a basic mistake…..
    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/04/17/giss-metar-dial-m-for-missing-minus-signs-its-worse-than-we-thought/
    Its related to the story otherwise snip

  46. chip
    Posted Apr 18, 2010 at 4:00 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Looking at the map it seems the hottest areas all seem to abut or lie within gray areas. I assume this means the remotest sensors are recording the highest temps.

    Are they reliable?

  47. ron from Texas
    Posted Apr 18, 2010 at 9:48 AM | Permalink | Reply

    It was asked early on how someone could create a 10 degree F discrepancy. Well, as I remember, GISS and NOAA decided to drop the ARGO buoy net as a source of raw data. As well as temp stations in northern latitudes, and picked ones near major metro areas in more southern latitudes. And then, to fill in the gaps of temps from deleted data sets, they use averaging algorithms that take data from as far as 1,000 miles away to project what the temperature “should be.” This altered and fabricated data record is then used as the actual data record, which allows them to say that such huge temps increases are happening. Which of course gets them more funding from the political orgs and governments that need them to prove such a thing. It’s akin to selling the customer what the customer wants. “You want fries with that?”

    Of course, we already know about the data debacle at the CRU. The recent revelations of the dropping of entire data sets by both NASA/GISS and NOAA. So, it’s not that surprising that they would report Finland as warming drastically. This is what happens when we let politics control science.

  48. Posted Apr 19, 2010 at 1:02 PM | Permalink | Reply

    It is very scary that the temp. is rising so fast, and for me this has a significant importance as i live in Scandinavia. They must come to an understanding soon and stop thinking about money and loans.

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