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	<title>Comments on: Harrabin on UEA&#8217;s &#8220;Sleight of Hand&#8221; (Phil Willis)</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: See - owe to Rich</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/07/harrabin-on-ueas-sleight-of-hand-phil-willis/#comment-235024</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[See - owe to Rich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 14:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding Mann&#039;s verbal comments, has anyone noticed that he pounced on the Eastern Seaboard heatwave as an affirmation of &quot;climate change&quot;.  So when it&#039;s hot it&#039;s global warming and it&#039;s climate, but when it&#039;s cold, like last winter, it&#039;s just weather.  Apart from the fact that of course climate change causes freaky weather of every which sort.

Pchah.

Rich.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Mann&#8217;s verbal comments, has anyone noticed that he pounced on the Eastern Seaboard heatwave as an affirmation of &#8220;climate change&#8221;.  So when it&#8217;s hot it&#8217;s global warming and it&#8217;s climate, but when it&#8217;s cold, like last winter, it&#8217;s just weather.  Apart from the fact that of course climate change causes freaky weather of every which sort.</p>
<p>Pchah.</p>
<p>Rich.</p>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 12:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A butterfly wing of paleoclimatology and prayers to Mammon.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A butterfly wing of paleoclimatology and prayers to Mammon.<br />
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		<title>By: Steve E</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/07/harrabin-on-ueas-sleight-of-hand-phil-willis/#comment-234884</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve E]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 12:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[UEA’s VC’s don’t come out of the inquiry very well in my opinion showing very lax management. I’m tempted to ask SidF’s question. As an occasional supplier to government, bids often require compliance to a slew of ISO quality and security standards, yet UEA/CRU were happy to let ‘world leading’, high policy impact work get done on a wing and a prayer.

IMO I think this is a key takeaway. Governance and oversight were completely missing at UEA through the whole affair. In the corporate world--even in government--a head would roll. The University needs to revisit its policies and procedures (including escalation and dispute resolution mechanisms) and put them out there publicly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UEA’s VC’s don’t come out of the inquiry very well in my opinion showing very lax management. I’m tempted to ask SidF’s question. As an occasional supplier to government, bids often require compliance to a slew of ISO quality and security standards, yet UEA/CRU were happy to let ‘world leading’, high policy impact work get done on a wing and a prayer.</p>
<p>IMO I think this is a key takeaway. Governance and oversight were completely missing at UEA through the whole affair. In the corporate world&#8211;even in government&#8211;a head would roll. The University needs to revisit its policies and procedures (including escalation and dispute resolution mechanisms) and put them out there publicly.</p>
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		<title>By: Atomic Hairdryer</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/07/harrabin-on-ueas-sleight-of-hand-phil-willis/#comment-234882</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Atomic Hairdryer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 12:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I got that feeling from the last Pearce debate at the RI. There were a lot of journalists there, and a sense that journalists should only report on approved stories from &#039;climate experts&#039;. Shortly after, we saw the PNAS paper with a handy list of who should be trusted and who not. Hopefully good journalists will ignore these kinds of PR tricks.

Looks like the Guardian debate is warming up as well, Trevor Davies has joined the panel. UEA&#039;s VC&#039;s don&#039;t come out of the inquiry very well in my opinion showing very lax management. I&#039;m tempted to ask SidF&#039;s question. As an occasional supplier to government, bids often require compliance to a slew of ISO quality and security standards, yet UEA/CRU were happy to let &#039;world leading&#039;, high policy impact work get done on a wing and a prayer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got that feeling from the last Pearce debate at the RI. There were a lot of journalists there, and a sense that journalists should only report on approved stories from &#8216;climate experts&#8217;. Shortly after, we saw the PNAS paper with a handy list of who should be trusted and who not. Hopefully good journalists will ignore these kinds of PR tricks.</p>
<p>Looks like the Guardian debate is warming up as well, Trevor Davies has joined the panel. UEA&#8217;s VC&#8217;s don&#8217;t come out of the inquiry very well in my opinion showing very lax management. I&#8217;m tempted to ask SidF&#8217;s question. As an occasional supplier to government, bids often require compliance to a slew of ISO quality and security standards, yet UEA/CRU were happy to let &#8216;world leading&#8217;, high policy impact work get done on a wing and a prayer.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Hansen</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/07/harrabin-on-ueas-sleight-of-hand-phil-willis/#comment-234862</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Hansen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 06:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the old days it was common practice to feed slop to the porkers. This was stopped because of fears that slop could lead to foot in mouth disease.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the old days it was common practice to feed slop to the porkers. This was stopped because of fears that slop could lead to foot in mouth disease.</p>
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		<title>By: James Evans</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/07/harrabin-on-ueas-sleight-of-hand-phil-willis/#comment-234859</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Evans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 05:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...but these people are apparently unaware of the blogosphere and assume that they can tell us black is white, the MSM will report that it’s so, and we’ll all move on. I’m afraid times have changed for your lordships and there will still be people hunting down the truth many years from now.&quot;

Exactly so. In the good old days that would have worked, no problemo. But these old boys don&#039;t quite seem to get that things have changed. The real indication of that, is that they continue to write their cunning conspiracies down in emails. It&#039;s almost comical. At some point perhaps they&#039;ll get their heads round the whole FOI thing, which is what started this thing off in the first place.

Harrabin&#039;s piece made a fascinating distinction between the informality of the scientists, versus the obsessiveness of the blogosphere. Which is simply a way of saying that the scientists aren&#039;t used to having people check up on whether they&#039;re telling the truth. People are now obsessively checking what the scientists do and what they say. And this really irritates some people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;but these people are apparently unaware of the blogosphere and assume that they can tell us black is white, the MSM will report that it’s so, and we’ll all move on. I’m afraid times have changed for your lordships and there will still be people hunting down the truth many years from now.&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly so. In the good old days that would have worked, no problemo. But these old boys don&#8217;t quite seem to get that things have changed. The real indication of that, is that they continue to write their cunning conspiracies down in emails. It&#8217;s almost comical. At some point perhaps they&#8217;ll get their heads round the whole FOI thing, which is what started this thing off in the first place.</p>
<p>Harrabin&#8217;s piece made a fascinating distinction between the informality of the scientists, versus the obsessiveness of the blogosphere. Which is simply a way of saying that the scientists aren&#8217;t used to having people check up on whether they&#8217;re telling the truth. People are now obsessively checking what the scientists do and what they say. And this really irritates some people.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 00:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...]  Harrabin on UEA&#8217;s &#8220;Sleight of Hand&#8221; (Phil Willis) Excellent commentary by Roger Harrabin here. Phil Willis, former Chair of the COmmons Science &amp; Technology Committee [...] [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  Harrabin on UEA&#8217;s &#8220;Sleight of Hand&#8221; (Phil Willis) Excellent commentary by Roger Harrabin here. Phil Willis, former Chair of the COmmons Science &amp; Technology Committee [...] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bender</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/07/harrabin-on-ueas-sleight-of-hand-phil-willis/#comment-234827</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bender]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 23:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep. And that tribalism (&quot;the skeptics don&#039;t rise above the level of conspiracy theorist nutters&quot;) is indeed wearing thin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. And that tribalism (&#8220;the skeptics don&#8217;t rise above the level of conspiracy theorist nutters&#8221;) is indeed wearing thin.</p>
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		<title>By: Dominic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dominic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 22:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Harrabin might not know much about the science of global warming a is probably happy to defer to &quot;scientists&quot;, but like any journalist he can smell a whitewash from a mile off. I think that what we will find is that while the scientists may appear to have been exonerated, the journalists are starting to get a sense of how the pro-AGW lobby has massaged the truth here with these three very iffy enquiries. I think that this will cause a certain amount of uneasiness. Or at least I hope so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harrabin might not know much about the science of global warming a is probably happy to defer to &#8220;scientists&#8221;, but like any journalist he can smell a whitewash from a mile off. I think that what we will find is that while the scientists may appear to have been exonerated, the journalists are starting to get a sense of how the pro-AGW lobby has massaged the truth here with these three very iffy enquiries. I think that this will cause a certain amount of uneasiness. Or at least I hope so.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Herbert</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/07/harrabin-on-ueas-sleight-of-hand-phil-willis/#comment-234817</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keith Herbert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 22:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Harriban said the skeptics were delighted to have the inquiries preceeding Muir Russell, specifically the Oxburgh inquiry. He said the skeptics expected the science they questioned to be the subject of the inquiry.

This rings untrue to me. I don&#039;t recall any skeptics thinking the inquiries were going to do more than skim the surface and exonerate East Anglia.

Harriban concludes by suggesting Steve McIntyre expected the proceedings to be more of a court style hearing. Though Steve may have preferred that, I don&#039;t recall he or anyone else, expected it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harriban said the skeptics were delighted to have the inquiries preceeding Muir Russell, specifically the Oxburgh inquiry. He said the skeptics expected the science they questioned to be the subject of the inquiry.</p>
<p>This rings untrue to me. I don&#8217;t recall any skeptics thinking the inquiries were going to do more than skim the surface and exonerate East Anglia.</p>
<p>Harriban concludes by suggesting Steve McIntyre expected the proceedings to be more of a court style hearing. Though Steve may have preferred that, I don&#8217;t recall he or anyone else, expected it.</p>
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