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	<title>Comments on: Muir Russell Skipped Jones’ Interviews</title>
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		<title>By: Trevor Davies at the Guardian Panel &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/09/muir-russell-skipped-jones-interviews/#comment-235842</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trevor Davies at the Guardian Panel &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the unveiling of the Muir Russell panel (on Feb 11, 2010), a point previously reported at CA here, as follows: Muir Russell was due to report in spring 2010, but as of the start of April, nobody at [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the unveiling of the Muir Russell panel (on Feb 11, 2010), a point previously reported at CA here, as follows: Muir Russell was due to report in spring 2010, but as of the start of April, nobody at [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jaffa</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/09/muir-russell-skipped-jones-interviews/#comment-235790</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jaffa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone seen todays Times, the front page story is about ExxonMobil financing &#039;climate sceptics&#039;, inside there are a couple of stories banging the &quot;UEA is exonerated&quot; drum. No mention of the non-existent science review, failure of Russell to even ask basic questions or the massive funding in favour of the pro-AGW agenda.

I was considering subscribing to the Times Online as I thought it was a decent news source. Clearly its reporters are either lazy or have a orders to tow the AGW line.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone seen todays Times, the front page story is about ExxonMobil financing &#8216;climate sceptics&#8217;, inside there are a couple of stories banging the &#8220;UEA is exonerated&#8221; drum. No mention of the non-existent science review, failure of Russell to even ask basic questions or the massive funding in favour of the pro-AGW agenda.</p>
<p>I was considering subscribing to the Times Online as I thought it was a decent news source. Clearly its reporters are either lazy or have a orders to tow the AGW line.</p>
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		<title>By: United States Halts Gravy Train for British Global Warming Unit &#124; The American Jingoist</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/09/muir-russell-skipped-jones-interviews/#comment-235748</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[United States Halts Gravy Train for British Global Warming Unit &#124; The American Jingoist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] reported on the Climate Audit blog run by McIntyre, Muir Russell review made no attempt to contact the Canadian who originally [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] reported on the Climate Audit blog run by McIntyre, Muir Russell review made no attempt to contact the Canadian who originally [...]</p>
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		<title>By: nevket240</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/09/muir-russell-skipped-jones-interviews/#comment-235687</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nevket240]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Read the third paragraph for a chuckle.  

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sciencetoday/2010/0715/1224274726932.html

regards]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the third paragraph for a chuckle.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sciencetoday/2010/0715/1224274726932.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sciencetoday/2010/0715/1224274726932.html</a></p>
<p>regards</p>
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		<title>By: antonyindia</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/09/muir-russell-skipped-jones-interviews/#comment-235653</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[antonyindia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is all simple really: Sir Muir Russell&#039;s and Lord Oxburgh reviews were typical examples of the age old process of &quot;Peer&quot; review, in multiple ways. The UEA&#039;s vice-chancellor Edward Acton asked his ex-collegue the ex-Principal and Vice-Chancellor of the University of Glasgow (Muir Russell) to feel the pulse of his institution. For Oxburgh the UEA in consultation with the Royal Society, had &quot;suggested that the panel looks in particular at key publications&quot;. The usage of peerage rank holders as investigation leaders was meant to divert the attention from subject or legal expertise to artificial pomp - a classic technique. One has to help an old friend in need, right?

As for truth finding these investigations have all gone pear-shaped. Call them &quot;pear reviews&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is all simple really: Sir Muir Russell&#8217;s and Lord Oxburgh reviews were typical examples of the age old process of &#8220;Peer&#8221; review, in multiple ways. The UEA&#8217;s vice-chancellor Edward Acton asked his ex-collegue the ex-Principal and Vice-Chancellor of the University of Glasgow (Muir Russell) to feel the pulse of his institution. For Oxburgh the UEA in consultation with the Royal Society, had &#8220;suggested that the panel looks in particular at key publications&#8221;. The usage of peerage rank holders as investigation leaders was meant to divert the attention from subject or legal expertise to artificial pomp &#8211; a classic technique. One has to help an old friend in need, right?</p>
<p>As for truth finding these investigations have all gone pear-shaped. Call them &#8220;pear reviews&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Does the latest Climategate Investigation Exonerate the Scientists Involved? &#124; The Beacon</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/09/muir-russell-skipped-jones-interviews/#comment-235630</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Does the latest Climategate Investigation Exonerate the Scientists Involved? &#124; The Beacon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 22:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] As extremely well documented in Steve McIntyre&#8217;s Climate Audit blog, the investigation, headed up by Sir Muir Russell, only interviewed representatives of the CRU itself—hardly a balanced investigation—and Russell himself did not even attend the interviews of Jones, Briffa and other key players (&#8220;Muir Russell Skipped Jones Interviews&#8220;). [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As extremely well documented in Steve McIntyre&#8217;s Climate Audit blog, the investigation, headed up by Sir Muir Russell, only interviewed representatives of the CRU itself—hardly a balanced investigation—and Russell himself did not even attend the interviews of Jones, Briffa and other key players (&#8220;Muir Russell Skipped Jones Interviews&#8220;). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Climategate whitewash continued&#8230; (much more to come) - Orange Punch : The Orange County Register</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/09/muir-russell-skipped-jones-interviews/#comment-235461</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Climategate whitewash continued&#8230; (much more to come) - Orange Punch : The Orange County Register]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 00:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Mann’s hockey stick, has been combing through the Muir Russell report. He wrote on his website ClimateAudit that it was absurd for Russell to conclude they “have seen no evidence of any attempt to delete [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mann’s hockey stick, has been combing through the Muir Russell report. He wrote on his website ClimateAudit that it was absurd for Russell to conclude they “have seen no evidence of any attempt to delete [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Varco</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/09/muir-russell-skipped-jones-interviews/#comment-235304</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Varco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 09:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.cce-review.org/evidence/UEA-CRU_IV4_Briffa%20and%20Jones_v6_1.pdf

Hmmm.... how come I missed this assessment in the final report? 

Rigour and Quality Assurance 
4.  It was noted that individual CRU researchers develop their own algorithms and 
their own software to encode those algorithms.  No systematic approach could 
be evidenced to either peer review of algorithms or software either within or 
outside the CRU.  Retrieval of data sets, meta-data and documentation from 
departing researchers appeared to be at best haphazard.  When pressed on the 
quality issues Prof. Jones noted that “one developed a feel for the data and 
instinctively knew what was right”.   There seemed to be little awareness that 
development and testing of software has different characteristics to that for 
physical systems.  In physical systems, reasonable inferences can be made as to 
correct operation by testing at specific points and interpolating between them.  
That is not the case for software systems.  A strong impression was given that 
pressure on resources led to a very low priority being given to data indexing and 
archiving plus software development and testing.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cce-review.org/evidence/UEA-CRU_IV4_Briffa%20and%20Jones_v6_1.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.cce-review.org/evidence/UEA-CRU_IV4_Briffa%20and%20Jones_v6_1.pdf</a></p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230;. how come I missed this assessment in the final report? </p>
<p>Rigour and Quality Assurance<br />
4.  It was noted that individual CRU researchers develop their own algorithms and<br />
their own software to encode those algorithms.  No systematic approach could<br />
be evidenced to either peer review of algorithms or software either within or<br />
outside the CRU.  Retrieval of data sets, meta-data and documentation from<br />
departing researchers appeared to be at best haphazard.  When pressed on the<br />
quality issues Prof. Jones noted that “one developed a feel for the data and<br />
instinctively knew what was right”.   There seemed to be little awareness that<br />
development and testing of software has different characteristics to that for<br />
physical systems.  In physical systems, reasonable inferences can be made as to<br />
correct operation by testing at specific points and interpolating between them.<br />
That is not the case for software systems.  A strong impression was given that<br />
pressure on resources led to a very low priority being given to data indexing and<br />
archiving plus software development and testing.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Varco</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/09/muir-russell-skipped-jones-interviews/#comment-235303</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Varco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 09:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.cce-review.org/evidence/UEA-CRU_IV2_ICO_270110FIN2.pdf

Interesting that ICO believes a &#039;whistleblower&#039; was likely source of Climategate leak. Apparently waiting for completion of Police investigation and Russell report before taking further action on three out of four of their areas of investigation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cce-review.org/evidence/UEA-CRU_IV2_ICO_270110FIN2.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.cce-review.org/evidence/UEA-CRU_IV2_ICO_270110FIN2.pdf</a></p>
<p>Interesting that ICO believes a &#8216;whistleblower&#8217; was likely source of Climategate leak. Apparently waiting for completion of Police investigation and Russell report before taking further action on three out of four of their areas of investigation.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Hampshire</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/09/muir-russell-skipped-jones-interviews/#comment-235204</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil Hampshire]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 10:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for all your comments. Much appreciated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all your comments. Much appreciated.</p>
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