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	<title>Comments on: The Botched Examination of the Back-Up Server</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Was there an actual legal opinion? &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/09/the-botched-examination-of-the-back-up-server/#comment-246311</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Was there an actual legal opinion? &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the following statement by the Muir Russell &#8220;inquiry&#8221; &#8211; a topic previously discussed here with further information provided [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the following statement by the Muir Russell &#8220;inquiry&#8221; &#8211; a topic previously discussed here with further information provided [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/09/the-botched-examination-of-the-back-up-server/#comment-235797</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This investigation was doomed to failure even if unbiased.

The investigators lacked the skill, legal authority, time and resources to conduct a proper investigation. It was a fiasco.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This investigation was doomed to failure even if unbiased.</p>
<p>The investigators lacked the skill, legal authority, time and resources to conduct a proper investigation. It was a fiasco.</p>
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		<title>By: Does the Latest Climategate Investigation Exonerate the Scientists Involved? &#124; The Beacon</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/09/the-botched-examination-of-the-back-up-server/#comment-235631</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Does the Latest Climategate Investigation Exonerate the Scientists Involved? &#124; The Beacon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 22:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The investigative panel did not review the vast majority of the emails. (&#8220;The Botched Examination of the Back-Up Server&#8220;) [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The investigative panel did not review the vast majority of the emails. (&#8220;The Botched Examination of the Back-Up Server&#8220;) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mojo</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/09/the-botched-examination-of-the-back-up-server/#comment-235540</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mojo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 20:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find it interesting that they refer to CRUBACK3 as &quot;the compromised server&quot; - is there ANY evidence of compromise?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it interesting that they refer to CRUBACK3 as &#8220;the compromised server&#8221; &#8211; is there ANY evidence of compromise?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard T. Fowler</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/09/the-botched-examination-of-the-back-up-server/#comment-235412</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard T. Fowler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 19:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All right then, how about a &quot;Sham-Wow&quot;?

Did those get advertized in the Commonwealth?

RTF]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All right then, how about a &#8220;Sham-Wow&#8221;?</p>
<p>Did those get advertized in the Commonwealth?</p>
<p>RTF</p>
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		<title>By: ZT</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/09/the-botched-examination-of-the-back-up-server/#comment-235185</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ZT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 03:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting how the foundations need to be shifted early and often to prove the warming case. (Stephen Colbert calls this &#039;Truthiness&#039;.)

There is a similarly interesting piece of Real Climate dedicated to positioning Amazongate: http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2010/06/leakegate-a-retraction/  

A knowledgeable person called oneuniverse takes on the education of Real Climate regulars (dhogaza et al) in the comments - with limited success. 

I wonder if the RC article will be updated...?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting how the foundations need to be shifted early and often to prove the warming case. (Stephen Colbert calls this &#8216;Truthiness&#8217;.)</p>
<p>There is a similarly interesting piece of Real Climate dedicated to positioning Amazongate: <a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2010/06/leakegate-a-retraction/" rel="nofollow">http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2010/06/leakegate-a-retraction/</a>  </p>
<p>A knowledgeable person called oneuniverse takes on the education of Real Climate regulars (dhogaza et al) in the comments &#8211; with limited success. </p>
<p>I wonder if the RC article will be updated&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: William Newman</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/09/the-botched-examination-of-the-back-up-server/#comment-235171</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Newman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 19:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I dimly remembered that RealClimate was once quite concerned about how misleading CRU emails might be taken out of context. A bit of search confirms:

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/11/the-cru-hack/

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/11/the-cru-hack-context/

That makes it particularly amusing that now, in a RealClimate writeup of the Muir Russell investigation, it&#039;s not worth mentioning that the investigation looked at only the emails that the public already knew about:

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2010/07/the-muir-russell-report/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dimly remembered that RealClimate was once quite concerned about how misleading CRU emails might be taken out of context. A bit of search confirms:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/11/the-cru-hack/" rel="nofollow">http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/11/the-cru-hack/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/11/the-cru-hack-context/" rel="nofollow">http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/11/the-cru-hack-context/</a></p>
<p>That makes it particularly amusing that now, in a RealClimate writeup of the Muir Russell investigation, it&#8217;s not worth mentioning that the investigation looked at only the emails that the public already knew about:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2010/07/the-muir-russell-report/" rel="nofollow">http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2010/07/the-muir-russell-report/</a></p>
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		<title>By: TonyN</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/09/the-botched-examination-of-the-back-up-server/#comment-235167</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TonyN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 19:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-235123&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Geoff Sherrington (Jul 11 06:55)&lt;/a&gt;, 

Thanks. Reply, which would be OT here, &lt;a href=&quot;http://ccgi.newbery1.plus.com/blog/?p=313#comment-65275&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-235123" rel="nofollow">Geoff Sherrington (Jul 11 06:55)</a>, </p>
<p>Thanks. Reply, which would be OT here, <a href="http://ccgi.newbery1.plus.com/blog/?p=313#comment-65275" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy Skywalker</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/09/the-botched-examination-of-the-back-up-server/#comment-235149</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lucy Skywalker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 16:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-235123&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Geoff Sherrington (Jul 11 06:55)&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;blockquote&gt;It took a couple of half hour sessions – one at a screen, to convince them otherwise showing them what CA was all about. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
CA
He Who Must Not Be Named in Full
He Who Must Not Be Contacted
He Who Must Not Be Believed
He Who Must Not Be Read
He Who Must Not Be Consulted
He Who Has No Right to FOIA access]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-235123" rel="nofollow">Geoff Sherrington (Jul 11 06:55)</a>,<br />
<blockquote>It took a couple of half hour sessions – one at a screen, to convince them otherwise showing them what CA was all about. </p></blockquote>
<p>CA<br />
He Who Must Not Be Named in Full<br />
He Who Must Not Be Contacted<br />
He Who Must Not Be Believed<br />
He Who Must Not Be Read<br />
He Who Must Not Be Consulted<br />
He Who Has No Right to FOIA access</p>
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		<title>By: Atomic Hairdryer</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/09/the-botched-examination-of-the-back-up-server/#comment-235134</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Atomic Hairdryer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 13:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think so. There&#039;s a good example of this with the decision notice for David Holland&#039;s complaint here:

http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/decisionnotices/2010/fer_0238017.pdf

&quot;The complainant made a number of requests for information related to the involvement of some of the public authority’s staff in the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. The Commissioner has found that the public authority breached regulation 14(2) of the EIR by failing to provide a response to a request within 20 working days and breached regulation 5(2) by failing to provide a response to other requests.&quot;

The ICO doesn&#039;t name individuals, but can still find fault as it did in this example.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think so. There&#8217;s a good example of this with the decision notice for David Holland&#8217;s complaint here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/decisionnotices/2010/fer_0238017.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/decisionnotices/2010/fer_0238017.pdf</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The complainant made a number of requests for information related to the involvement of some of the public authority’s staff in the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. The Commissioner has found that the public authority breached regulation 14(2) of the EIR by failing to provide a response to a request within 20 working days and breached regulation 5(2) by failing to provide a response to other requests.&#8221;</p>
<p>The ICO doesn&#8217;t name individuals, but can still find fault as it did in this example.</p>
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