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	<title>Comments on: Trevor Davies at the Guardian Panel</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Theo Goodwin</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/20/trevor-davies-at-the-guardian-panel/#comment-236116</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Theo Goodwin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Load writes:
&quot;A young woman right in front of me stood up and said ” My name’s Julia, and I was at Copenhagen”. I think that said it all !&quot;

To an American sitting at home, all the women sounded like the same young woman, except for Fiona, of course. I have taken the train from London to &quot;Tattoo&quot; during Edinburgh&#039;s street festival, and I believe all those young women were on that train. Quite a multicultural mix, or so they appeared.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Load writes:<br />
&#8220;A young woman right in front of me stood up and said ” My name’s Julia, and I was at Copenhagen”. I think that said it all !&#8221;</p>
<p>To an American sitting at home, all the women sounded like the same young woman, except for Fiona, of course. I have taken the train from London to &#8220;Tattoo&#8221; during Edinburgh&#8217;s street festival, and I believe all those young women were on that train. Quite a multicultural mix, or so they appeared.</p>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/20/trevor-davies-at-the-guardian-panel/#comment-236026</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, of course; the paltriness of the fine is because Goldman&#039;s actions were in the service of a matter of much less moment than Climate.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, of course; the paltriness of the fine is because Goldman&#8217;s actions were in the service of a matter of much less moment than Climate.<br />
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		<title>By: Dung</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/20/trevor-davies-at-the-guardian-panel/#comment-235984</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dung]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[George Carlin was wonderful  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Carlin was wonderful  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dung</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/20/trevor-davies-at-the-guardian-panel/#comment-235981</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dung]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I also got Steve&#039;s signature in the front of my HSI  and I am really proud of that (second in the queue  hehe)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also got Steve&#8217;s signature in the front of my HSI  and I am really proud of that (second in the queue  hehe)</p>
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		<title>By: xysmith</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/20/trevor-davies-at-the-guardian-panel/#comment-235938</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[xysmith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wasn&#039;t attempting to debate the &quot;big picture&quot; as much as I was wondering who it was that made such a nonsense statement and laying out the reasons I felt it was nonsense. But it&#039;s your blog, enjoy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t attempting to debate the &#8220;big picture&#8221; as much as I was wondering who it was that made such a nonsense statement and laying out the reasons I felt it was nonsense. But it&#8217;s your blog, enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: toad</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/20/trevor-davies-at-the-guardian-panel/#comment-235917</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[toad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last Wednesday evening was one none of us will ever forget. Whether it was the last nail in the CRU&#039;s coffin remains to be seen. More people are even angrier than ever after the latest revelations. For me the highlight of the evening was when the first questioner was selected. A young woman right in front of me stood up and said &quot; My name&#039;s Julia, and I was at Copenhagen&quot;. I think that said it all !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last Wednesday evening was one none of us will ever forget. Whether it was the last nail in the CRU&#8217;s coffin remains to be seen. More people are even angrier than ever after the latest revelations. For me the highlight of the evening was when the first questioner was selected. A young woman right in front of me stood up and said &#8221; My name&#8217;s Julia, and I was at Copenhagen&#8221;. I think that said it all !</p>
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		<title>By: toad</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/20/trevor-davies-at-the-guardian-panel/#comment-235916</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[toad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Barry Woods.  &#039;George Monbiot was a very good chair&#039;. Why are you so charitable ? Had you said the &#039;debate&#039; was brilliantly stage-managed by Monbiot, I would have concurred. However, let us consider the &#039;panel&#039; from right to left. Keenan was totally predictable, he repeated the accusations he&#039;s voiced many times over. Watson could be relied on to waffle about 99% of cats prefering whatever.
Steve was, as we anticipated, brilliant, but he was there to do the job that was expected of him, which was totally to demolish the argument of the man from the CRU. This leaves Monbiot himself, poor Trevor Davies who must have wondered what had hit him, and of course Fred, who was hardly likely to make life difficult for George.
Piers Corbyn provided just that little bit of audience revolt which allowed George to do his &#039;I&#039;m in charge bit&#039;. The mix of questions was exactly what George was looking for, I wonder how he managed that ?
Result, &#039;Man from CRU&#039; leaves with &#039;flea in ear&#039;,which was exactly the point of the exercise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry Woods.  &#8216;George Monbiot was a very good chair&#8217;. Why are you so charitable ? Had you said the &#8216;debate&#8217; was brilliantly stage-managed by Monbiot, I would have concurred. However, let us consider the &#8216;panel&#8217; from right to left. Keenan was totally predictable, he repeated the accusations he&#8217;s voiced many times over. Watson could be relied on to waffle about 99% of cats prefering whatever.<br />
Steve was, as we anticipated, brilliant, but he was there to do the job that was expected of him, which was totally to demolish the argument of the man from the CRU. This leaves Monbiot himself, poor Trevor Davies who must have wondered what had hit him, and of course Fred, who was hardly likely to make life difficult for George.<br />
Piers Corbyn provided just that little bit of audience revolt which allowed George to do his &#8216;I&#8217;m in charge bit&#8217;. The mix of questions was exactly what George was looking for, I wonder how he managed that ?<br />
Result, &#8216;Man from CRU&#8217; leaves with &#8216;flea in ear&#8217;,which was exactly the point of the exercise.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/20/trevor-davies-at-the-guardian-panel/#comment-235911</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speaking of Trevor Davies, have a look at the New York Times editorial page today:

&quot;Goldman did not admit or deny the allegations, but it did acknowledge it made a “mistake” by not disclosing to investors that a hedge fund participated in selecting the securities in question, while intending to bet they would default. Goldman also said that its marketing materials were “incomplete,” that it “regrets” the oversight and that it won’t make the same mistake again.&quot;


So, Goldman told investors that Goldman selected the papers ... I mean the securities ... but actually, behind the scenes, they got help from a guy who had an undisclosed interest in picking only certain securities and leaving other ones out.  

For this they paid $550 million.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Trevor Davies, have a look at the New York Times editorial page today:</p>
<p>&#8220;Goldman did not admit or deny the allegations, but it did acknowledge it made a “mistake” by not disclosing to investors that a hedge fund participated in selecting the securities in question, while intending to bet they would default. Goldman also said that its marketing materials were “incomplete,” that it “regrets” the oversight and that it won’t make the same mistake again.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, Goldman told investors that Goldman selected the papers &#8230; I mean the securities &#8230; but actually, behind the scenes, they got help from a guy who had an undisclosed interest in picking only certain securities and leaving other ones out.  </p>
<p>For this they paid $550 million.</p>
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		<title>By: labrador</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/20/trevor-davies-at-the-guardian-panel/#comment-235910</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[labrador]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So who was it that was wearing the &quot;hockey stick&quot; shirt?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So who was it that was wearing the &#8220;hockey stick&#8221; shirt?</p>
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		<title>By: dearieme</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/20/trevor-davies-at-the-guardian-panel/#comment-235905</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dearieme]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For years I have wanted someone, somewhere in the world, to declare a Great War on Trevor.  This Trevor will do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For years I have wanted someone, somewhere in the world, to declare a Great War on Trevor.  This Trevor will do.</p>
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