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	<title>Comments on: Mann versus the Provincial Parrots</title>
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		<title>By: Pete Hayes</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/31/mann-versus-the-provincial-parrots/#comment-238241</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete Hayes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2010 10:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lubos, Now I know why the Guardian moderates you out ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lubos, Now I know why the Guardian moderates you out <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tim Sorenson</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/31/mann-versus-the-provincial-parrots/#comment-237896</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Sorenson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 05:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are not some Mr. Mann&#039;s comments blantantly false. In his letters.  

He states that 3 investigations exonerated them of 
&quot;supposed destruction of data.&quot;  Did they not corrupt original data, and dispose of it. Or was that at CRU?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are not some Mr. Mann&#8217;s comments blantantly false. In his letters.  </p>
<p>He states that 3 investigations exonerated them of<br />
&#8220;supposed destruction of data.&#8221;  Did they not corrupt original data, and dispose of it. Or was that at CRU?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Wright</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/31/mann-versus-the-provincial-parrots/#comment-237836</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Wright]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s ironic that Mann repeatedly uses the term &#039;climate change denier&#039; to denigrate people that he doesn&#039;t agree with. In fact the whole point of the hockey stick is to deny that the MWP and LIA ever existed. If you think about it, the whole essence of the hockey stick handle is climate change denialism.

It&#039;s also ironic in another way. A major argument of &#039;climate change deniers&#039; is that - ahem - the climate is always changing!
Chris]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s ironic that Mann repeatedly uses the term &#8216;climate change denier&#8217; to denigrate people that he doesn&#8217;t agree with. In fact the whole point of the hockey stick is to deny that the MWP and LIA ever existed. If you think about it, the whole essence of the hockey stick handle is climate change denialism.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also ironic in another way. A major argument of &#8216;climate change deniers&#8217; is that &#8211; ahem &#8211; the climate is always changing!<br />
Chris</p>
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		<title>By: mojo</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/31/mann-versus-the-provincial-parrots/#comment-237612</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mojo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 20:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Classic sign of self-googlitis]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Classic sign of self-googlitis</p>
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		<title>By: oneuniverse</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/31/mann-versus-the-provincial-parrots/#comment-237552</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[oneuniverse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 15:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the compliment, Roman , very kind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the compliment, Roman , very kind.</p>
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		<title>By: vigilantfish</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/31/mann-versus-the-provincial-parrots/#comment-237415</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vigilantfish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thaddee Renault was a neighbour when I lived in Fredericton and a man of impeccable honesty and respect for the truth. He also rejects the superficial media-driven understanding of societal issues. Mann&#039;s heavy-handed response is insulting and arrogantly condescending to him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thaddee Renault was a neighbour when I lived in Fredericton and a man of impeccable honesty and respect for the truth. He also rejects the superficial media-driven understanding of societal issues. Mann&#8217;s heavy-handed response is insulting and arrogantly condescending to him.</p>
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		<title>By: dfbaskwill</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/31/mann-versus-the-provincial-parrots/#comment-237404</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dfbaskwill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Nailed to the perch&quot;,  so to speak.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Nailed to the perch&#8221;,  so to speak.</p>
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		<title>By: Brooks Hurd</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/31/mann-versus-the-provincial-parrots/#comment-237327</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brooks Hurd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 03:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve,
I have been referring to the so called &quot;investigations&quot; as exonerations. I am happy to see that Mann now admits that these were exonerations: As Mann said in his letters: 

&quot;Unfortunately, these exonerations cannot stop individuals like ........ from repeating the false allegations.&quot;

Mann seems to be acknowledging that the purpose of these events were to exonerate, not investigate. 

Mann also claims in his letters that the emails were &quot;illegally hacked&quot; in spite of the fact that there is no evidence that the emails were hacked, or that anything illegal occured.  

He is nothing, if not consistent. Mann is an expert at using logical fallacies. These letters serve to reinforce his expertise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,<br />
I have been referring to the so called &#8220;investigations&#8221; as exonerations. I am happy to see that Mann now admits that these were exonerations: As Mann said in his letters: </p>
<p>&#8220;Unfortunately, these exonerations cannot stop individuals like &#8230;&#8230;.. from repeating the false allegations.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mann seems to be acknowledging that the purpose of these events were to exonerate, not investigate. </p>
<p>Mann also claims in his letters that the emails were &#8220;illegally hacked&#8221; in spite of the fact that there is no evidence that the emails were hacked, or that anything illegal occured.  </p>
<p>He is nothing, if not consistent. Mann is an expert at using logical fallacies. These letters serve to reinforce his expertise.</p>
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		<title>By: Timberati</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/31/mann-versus-the-provincial-parrots/#comment-237319</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timberati]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 02:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He even wrote the (essentially) same letter in response to a letter to the editor in our minuscule (albeit daily) paper, the Lake County Record-Bee.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He even wrote the (essentially) same letter in response to a letter to the editor in our minuscule (albeit daily) paper, the Lake County Record-Bee.</p>
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		<title>By: Shub Niggurath</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/31/mann-versus-the-provincial-parrots/#comment-237314</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shub Niggurath]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 01:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Posted at Bishop Hill earlier)

Mann uses these words very frequently, irrespective of interview/letter/speech/comment

parroting
spurious
scurrilious
fossil-fuel funded campaign
denier
false information
misinformation
disinformation
falsehoods
smear campaigns
misrepresentation
fossil-fuel industry funded
blatant falsehood
deeply flawed
contrarian]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Posted at Bishop Hill earlier)</p>
<p>Mann uses these words very frequently, irrespective of interview/letter/speech/comment</p>
<p>parroting<br />
spurious<br />
scurrilious<br />
fossil-fuel funded campaign<br />
denier<br />
false information<br />
misinformation<br />
disinformation<br />
falsehoods<br />
smear campaigns<br />
misrepresentation<br />
fossil-fuel industry funded<br />
blatant falsehood<br />
deeply flawed<br />
contrarian</p>
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