Comments on: Wahl-Briffa Attachments Were Deleted

By: Skiphil

Skiphil — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:42:53 +0000

So now in Jan. 2013 it is crystal clear that UEA ensured that the Muir Russell inquiry never really got started in examining email records properly:

http://climateaudit.org/2013/01/09/more-tricks-from-east-anglia/

Wilful incompetence or conscious cover-up?

By: Peas, thimbles, deletions, FOI, UAE, CRU, and all that | Watts Up With That?

Wed, 27 Oct 2010 15:37:08 +0000

[...] Contrary to claims by Jones and Acton that nothing had been deleted, the University refused the FOI request on the basis that the attachments had been deleted, that they no longer possessed the attachments to the emails – see previous review here. [...]

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By: Punksta

Punksta — Sun, 15 Aug 2010 10:43:23 +0000

It seems to me that in the public interest, ALL of the UEA emails should now be made publicly available – ie the balance of those not provided in the Climategate leak.

By: Alan F

Alan F — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 16:49:45 +0000

Actually any data manager worth his salt has multiple images created of all active drives under his/her care. Data forensics is resolute in the matter of working from images too. Not a single experienced admin would dare risk leaving themselves merely a damaged drive or half arsed tape backup to work a recovery from. No never, not ever!

There be copies galore and the real job is merely locating one of the old system admins. They would be able to show you not only where the bodies are but when they were put there, who came back to take a peek and how often.

As one myself, I can say we get “let go” all the time in budget cuts (we never matter until it hits the fan then they come crawling and we contract back for obscene amounts of $$$) and we always take our work home with us. Someone is always blaming sys admin for their own failures and its nice to be able to beat them to death with hard copies of the data access chronologies. I’ve had to do that myself.

By: kim

kim — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 13:13:40 +0000

It is curious and gratifying that an attempt has been made to hide personal data, in the manner required by law, in the leaked material. Thank you, dear one, thank you.
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By: Latimer Alder

Latimer Alder — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 08:43:00 +0000

No IT Manager has ever got sacked for having too many backups of anything.

By: EdeF

EdeF — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 02:30:09 +0000

What are you guys worried about, of course we are not going to delete the emails. Oh, that email that said to delete the emails, that was just a figure of speech. We weren’t really going to delete anything. No seriously, trust us.
Of course, no one really checked to see if we did delete the emails, which of course we really didn’t do. Until this Steve guy writes a FOI EIR request. Well lo and behold! They seemed to have disappeared. Into thin air. All gone.
And by the way, some of the correspondence was very personal stuff, you know,
tree ring data and other stuff that we just can’t send out to anyone, no, too personal. Gotta keep it under wraps. And the rest, well that’s all out there in the world you know, in the journals, on the internet. Don’t need to bother us if its already available you know. Cheerio. Eh.

By: Sonicfrog

Sonicfrog — Tue, 10 Aug 2010 23:30:09 +0000

It’s easy. They close their eyes, and repeat the mantra “Job Well Done….”, “Job Well Done….”, “Job Well Done….”

By: jv

jv — Tue, 10 Aug 2010 22:46:54 +0000

I have never seen a situation where removing attachments was done with out the emails being backed up to tape first.