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		<title>By: dahuang</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/08/30/back-from-erice/#comment-240710</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 22:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve, do you know the current status of this paper by Drs. Lindzen and Choi (2010) since you met Lindzen in person in Italy and climate sensitivity becomes a central issue these days.

[QUOTE]Richard S. Lindzen, Yong-Sang Choi, On the observational determination of climate sensitivity and its implications, (Submitted to Journal of Geophysical Research, February 2010). PDF: http://www.legnostorto.com/allegati/Lindzen_Choi_ERBE_JGR_v4.pdf[/QUOTE]

Recently Drs. Spencer and Braswell&#039;s paper on climate sensitivity was accepted by JGR, so the fate of Lindzen and Choi (2010) manuscript becomes my serious concern.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/08/28/congratulations-finally-to-spencer-and-braswell-on-getting-their-new-paper-published/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, do you know the current status of this paper by Drs. Lindzen and Choi (2010) since you met Lindzen in person in Italy and climate sensitivity becomes a central issue these days.</p>
<p>[QUOTE]Richard S. Lindzen, Yong-Sang Choi, On the observational determination of climate sensitivity and its implications, (Submitted to Journal of Geophysical Research, February 2010). PDF: <a href="http://www.legnostorto.com/allegati/Lindzen_Choi_ERBE_JGR_v4.pdf%5B/QUOTE%5D" rel="nofollow">http://www.legnostorto.com/allegati/Lindzen_Choi_ERBE_JGR_v4.pdf%5B/QUOTE%5D</a></p>
<p>Recently Drs. Spencer and Braswell&#8217;s paper on climate sensitivity was accepted by JGR, so the fate of Lindzen and Choi (2010) manuscript becomes my serious concern.</p>
<p><a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/08/28/congratulations-finally-to-spencer-and-braswell-on-getting-their-new-paper-published/" rel="nofollow">http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/08/28/congratulations-finally-to-spencer-and-braswell-on-getting-their-new-paper-published/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Alberts</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/08/30/back-from-erice/#comment-240653</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Alberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 14:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not sure how long it&#039;s been there. I&#039;ve used it a few times recently. Glad I could help. ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure how long it&#8217;s been there. I&#8217;ve used it a few times recently. Glad I could help. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dave Dardinger</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/08/30/back-from-erice/#comment-240650</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Dardinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-240631&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David Weisman (Sep 1 23:10)&lt;/a&gt;, 

Hey, it&#039;s your blog.  I was expecting my remarks to be snipped, which is why I didn&#039;t complain.  I just hoped Mr. Weisman would have a chance to read it before it hit the bit bucket.  Next time though, I&#039;ll just link to one of Willis&#039; articles on WUWT.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-240631" rel="nofollow">David Weisman (Sep 1 23:10)</a>, </p>
<p>Hey, it&#8217;s your blog.  I was expecting my remarks to be snipped, which is why I didn&#8217;t complain.  I just hoped Mr. Weisman would have a chance to read it before it hit the bit bucket.  Next time though, I&#8217;ll just link to one of Willis&#8217; articles on WUWT.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Dardinger</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/08/30/back-from-erice/#comment-240647</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Dardinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-240636&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jeff Alberts (Sep 2 00:09)&lt;/a&gt;, 

Ok, that will work.  Has that been there long?  It&#039;s not exactly the obvious place to look, but a couple of clicks and a drag is better than having to type in &quot;unthreaded&quot; at least.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-240636" rel="nofollow">Jeff Alberts (Sep 2 00:09)</a>, </p>
<p>Ok, that will work.  Has that been there long?  It&#8217;s not exactly the obvious place to look, but a couple of clicks and a drag is better than having to type in &#8220;unthreaded&#8221; at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Alberts</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/08/30/back-from-erice/#comment-240636</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Alberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 05:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s a Categories drop-down on the left side under the pages section. Unthreaded is at the bottom of the drop-down list.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a Categories drop-down on the left side under the pages section. Unthreaded is at the bottom of the drop-down list.</p>
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		<title>By: David Weisman</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/08/30/back-from-erice/#comment-240631</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Weisman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 04:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, this isn&#039;t really an unthreaded random discussion.  If this blog is about auditing climate science, asking if &#039;climate sensitivity&#039; is used coherently in Lindzen and Choi 2009 is as relevant as you can get.  While Steve&#039;s main focus is studying the statistics in IPCC and other realclimate type studies, he has posted on other climate science as well, such as Lindzen and Choi 2009.  I read Andrew&#039;s deleted comment before it got snipped, and I&#039;m still puzzling how it fit into the category he ascribed it to, so perhaps I just don&#039;t understand his policy, and it really would be snipped even there, but by that logic it could be snipped from unthreaded too.

&lt;strong&gt;Steve- &lt;/strong&gt; editorially, I&#039;ve found that every thread tends to turn into an argument about the &quot;big picture&quot; in the absence of an editorial policy asking readers to discuss a thread topic. I welcome readers locating an older thread that is relevant to their concern - I don&#039;t recall whether I posted onn Lindzen and Choi _ I meant to, but got overtaken by Yamal and Climategate and will perhaps return to it.  Editorially, I particularly dislike attempts to prove or disprove the importance of AGW in one paragraph.  I understand people&#039;s concern and interest, but editorially they seldom offer anything of interest to the larger audience. There are many blogs that welcome such exchange of opinion; I don&#039;t see much point in such exchanges and would prefer to maintain this  space.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, this isn&#8217;t really an unthreaded random discussion.  If this blog is about auditing climate science, asking if &#8216;climate sensitivity&#8217; is used coherently in Lindzen and Choi 2009 is as relevant as you can get.  While Steve&#8217;s main focus is studying the statistics in IPCC and other realclimate type studies, he has posted on other climate science as well, such as Lindzen and Choi 2009.  I read Andrew&#8217;s deleted comment before it got snipped, and I&#8217;m still puzzling how it fit into the category he ascribed it to, so perhaps I just don&#8217;t understand his policy, and it really would be snipped even there, but by that logic it could be snipped from unthreaded too.</p>
<p><strong>Steve- </strong> editorially, I&#8217;ve found that every thread tends to turn into an argument about the &#8220;big picture&#8221; in the absence of an editorial policy asking readers to discuss a thread topic. I welcome readers locating an older thread that is relevant to their concern &#8211; I don&#8217;t recall whether I posted onn Lindzen and Choi _ I meant to, but got overtaken by Yamal and Climategate and will perhaps return to it.  Editorially, I particularly dislike attempts to prove or disprove the importance of AGW in one paragraph.  I understand people&#8217;s concern and interest, but editorially they seldom offer anything of interest to the larger audience. There are many blogs that welcome such exchange of opinion; I don&#8217;t see much point in such exchanges and would prefer to maintain this  space.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Dardinger</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/08/30/back-from-erice/#comment-240629</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Dardinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 03:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-240611&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stan Plamer (Sep 1 16:23)&lt;/a&gt;, 

Actually I knew you could search for unthreaded, but didn&#039;t remember how well it worked so didn&#039;t mention it until I&#039;d checked.  True it&#039;s pretty easy that way, but really that&#039;s not a very professional way to do things.  You should be able to click a button or link and be done with it.  Also note that if i searched for &quot;Unthreadd&quot; if probably wouldn&#039;t work very well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-240611" rel="nofollow">Stan Plamer (Sep 1 16:23)</a>, </p>
<p>Actually I knew you could search for unthreaded, but didn&#8217;t remember how well it worked so didn&#8217;t mention it until I&#8217;d checked.  True it&#8217;s pretty easy that way, but really that&#8217;s not a very professional way to do things.  You should be able to click a button or link and be done with it.  Also note that if i searched for &#8220;Unthreadd&#8221; if probably wouldn&#8217;t work very well.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan Plamer</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/08/30/back-from-erice/#comment-240611</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stan Plamer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 21:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just search for Unthreadd from the Search box]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just search for Unthreadd from the Search box</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Dardinger</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/08/30/back-from-erice/#comment-240609</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Dardinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 19:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-240597&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jeff Alberts (Sep 1 09:53)&lt;/a&gt;, 

But how does one get to unthreaded under normal circumstances?  At the moment it&#039;s on the recent comments list, but it&#039;s so long and far back that getting to it is a problem.  I suggested to Steve a while back that he make a link to Unthreaded in the Pages section on the left sidebar, but it&#039;s not been done so far.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-240597" rel="nofollow">Jeff Alberts (Sep 1 09:53)</a>, </p>
<p>But how does one get to unthreaded under normal circumstances?  At the moment it&#8217;s on the recent comments list, but it&#8217;s so long and far back that getting to it is a problem.  I suggested to Steve a while back that he make a link to Unthreaded in the Pages section on the left sidebar, but it&#8217;s not been done so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Alberts</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/08/30/back-from-erice/#comment-240597</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Alberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or move it to Unthreaded...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or move it to Unthreaded&#8230;</p>
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