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		<title>By: The Strata-Sphere &#187; UK Investigation Completely Debunks Global Warming Science</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Strata-Sphere &#187; UK Investigation Completely Debunks Global Warming Science]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2010 16:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] important posts on the hearings can be found at Harmless Sky and Climate Audit (here and [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] important posts on the hearings can be found at Harmless Sky and Climate Audit (here and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 3x2</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/09/08/oxburgh-tricks-the-committee/#comment-241184</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[3x2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Couldn&#039;t find it on youtube and I really can&#039;t be bothered setting up an account so a text version will have to do .. (from &quot;The Compassionate Society&quot;)....

[M- minister, SH- Sir Humphrey]

&lt;b&gt;M:&lt;/b&gt; The enquiry gives us some time.
&lt;b&gt;SH:&lt;/b&gt; So does a time-bomb!

&lt;b&gt;M:&lt;/b&gt;  Is there a disposal squad?
&lt;b&gt;SH:&lt;/b&gt; Disposal squad?

&lt;b&gt;M:&lt;/b&gt; Couldn&#039;t we get the independent enquiry to exonerate us?
&lt;b&gt;S:&lt;/b&gt;Do you mean rig it?
&lt;b&gt;M:&lt;/b&gt; No, no, no, no! ....Well... yes.
&lt;b&gt;SH:&lt;/b&gt;  Minister! Well it depends on who the chairman is. He absolutely has to be sound.

&lt;b&gt;M:&lt;/b&gt;How do you mean sound?
&lt;b&gt;SH:&lt;/b&gt; Well a sound man will know what is required. He will perceive the implications.He will have a sympathetic and sensitive insight into the overall problems.In short, he will be... &quot;sound&quot;.

&lt;b&gt;M:&lt;/b&gt;You mean... bent?
&lt;b&gt;SH:&lt;/b&gt;of course not! No, he will be a man of broad understanding...

&lt;b&gt;M:&lt;/b&gt; How about... a retired politician?
&lt;b&gt;SH:&lt;/b&gt;...and unimpeachable integrity.
&lt;b&gt;M:&lt;/b&gt; Yes, I see what you mean.

&lt;b&gt;M:&lt;/b&gt;A businessman?
&lt;b&gt;SH:&lt;/b&gt; Oh, really!

&lt;b&gt;M:&lt;/b&gt; An academic?
&lt;b&gt;SH:&lt;/b&gt;No, no, no.

&lt;b&gt;M:&lt;/b&gt;Alright, who&#039;ve you got in mind?
&lt;b&gt;SH:&lt;/b&gt;Well..I thought perhaps a retired civil servant.

&lt;b&gt;M:&lt;/b&gt; Good thinking, Humphrey.
&lt;b&gt;SH:&lt;/b&gt;Sir Maurice Williams could be the man.
&lt;b&gt;M:&lt;/b&gt;Might not he be too independent?
&lt;b&gt;SH:&lt;/b&gt;Well, he&#039;s hoping for a peerage.
&lt;b&gt;M:&lt;/b&gt;Well he won&#039;t get one through this will he? 
&lt;b&gt;SH:&lt;/b&gt;No, but the right finding will earn him Brownie points!
&lt;b&gt;M:&lt;/b&gt;Brownie points?!
&lt;b&gt;SH:&lt;/b&gt;They all add up until finally you get the badge!

&lt;b&gt;M:&lt;/b&gt;Very well, Sir Maurice it is.
&lt;b&gt;SH:&lt;/b&gt;Thank you, Minister.
&lt;b&gt;M:&lt;/b&gt;No..thank you... Brown Owl.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t find it on youtube and I really can&#8217;t be bothered setting up an account so a text version will have to do .. (from &#8220;The Compassionate Society&#8221;)&#8230;.</p>
<p>[M- minister, SH- Sir Humphrey]</p>
<p><b>M:</b> The enquiry gives us some time.<br />
<b>SH:</b> So does a time-bomb!</p>
<p><b>M:</b>  Is there a disposal squad?<br />
<b>SH:</b> Disposal squad?</p>
<p><b>M:</b> Couldn&#8217;t we get the independent enquiry to exonerate us?<br />
<b>S:</b>Do you mean rig it?<br />
<b>M:</b> No, no, no, no! &#8230;.Well&#8230; yes.<br />
<b>SH:</b>  Minister! Well it depends on who the chairman is. He absolutely has to be sound.</p>
<p><b>M:</b>How do you mean sound?<br />
<b>SH:</b> Well a sound man will know what is required. He will perceive the implications.He will have a sympathetic and sensitive insight into the overall problems.In short, he will be&#8230; &#8220;sound&#8221;.</p>
<p><b>M:</b>You mean&#8230; bent?<br />
<b>SH:</b>of course not! No, he will be a man of broad understanding&#8230;</p>
<p><b>M:</b> How about&#8230; a retired politician?<br />
<b>SH:</b>&#8230;and unimpeachable integrity.<br />
<b>M:</b> Yes, I see what you mean.</p>
<p><b>M:</b>A businessman?<br />
<b>SH:</b> Oh, really!</p>
<p><b>M:</b> An academic?<br />
<b>SH:</b>No, no, no.</p>
<p><b>M:</b>Alright, who&#8217;ve you got in mind?<br />
<b>SH:</b>Well..I thought perhaps a retired civil servant.</p>
<p><b>M:</b> Good thinking, Humphrey.<br />
<b>SH:</b>Sir Maurice Williams could be the man.<br />
<b>M:</b>Might not he be too independent?<br />
<b>SH:</b>Well, he&#8217;s hoping for a peerage.<br />
<b>M:</b>Well he won&#8217;t get one through this will he?<br />
<b>SH:</b>No, but the right finding will earn him Brownie points!<br />
<b>M:</b>Brownie points?!<br />
<b>SH:</b>They all add up until finally you get the badge!</p>
<p><b>M:</b>Very well, Sir Maurice it is.<br />
<b>SH:</b>Thank you, Minister.<br />
<b>M:</b>No..thank you&#8230; Brown Owl.</p>
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		<title>By: WillR</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/09/08/oxburgh-tricks-the-committee/#comment-241114</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WillR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I finally remembered a &quot;Yes Prime Minister&quot; episode that may be of interest to people who wish to decode this whole &quot;Inquiry&quot; situation.

It is all about a banking scandal and how information is to be &quot;disseminated&quot; -- or not, who was dishonest or not, and how to suppress a scandal;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLWVcEyfVyY&amp;feature=related

&quot;Ignorance is safety and it is not a crime to be deceived...&quot;

&quot;Some of my friends are honest -- but they are smart enough to get away with it...&quot;

&quot;Well we have to make the bad news look good...&quot;


Watch, enjoy and think of the inquiries...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally remembered a &#8220;Yes Prime Minister&#8221; episode that may be of interest to people who wish to decode this whole &#8220;Inquiry&#8221; situation.</p>
<p>It is all about a banking scandal and how information is to be &#8220;disseminated&#8221; &#8212; or not, who was dishonest or not, and how to suppress a scandal;</p>
<p><span class='embed-youtube' style='text-align:center; display: block;'><iframe class='youtube-player' type='text/html' width='640' height='390' src='http://www.youtube.com/embed/zLWVcEyfVyY?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;fs=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;wmode=transparent' frameborder='0'></iframe></span></p>
<p>&#8220;Ignorance is safety and it is not a crime to be deceived&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Some of my friends are honest &#8212; but they are smart enough to get away with it&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Well we have to make the bad news look good&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Watch, enjoy and think of the inquiries&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve McIntyre</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/09/08/oxburgh-tricks-the-committee/#comment-241111</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve McIntyre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anthony sends the following image courtesy of one of his readers:

&lt;img src=&quot;http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4084/4977391866_ba5d227e73.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;&quot; /&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony sends the following image courtesy of one of his readers:</p>
<p><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4084/4977391866_ba5d227e73.jpg" alt="" width="" /></p>
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		<title>By: TheSkyIsFalling</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/09/08/oxburgh-tricks-the-committee/#comment-241065</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TheSkyIsFalling]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, I totally agree. It&#039;s one of the nicest cities in the UK, and has a super-abundance of pubs too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I totally agree. It&#8217;s one of the nicest cities in the UK, and has a super-abundance of pubs too.</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/09/08/oxburgh-tricks-the-committee/#comment-241061</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jason]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry you felt the need to criticise the city of Norwich.

As someone who lives here, I have to disagree and urge you to stick to what you arte good at, as assessing the quality of a city is obviously not one of your skills.

&lt;strong&gt;Steve:&lt;/strong&gt; no offence meant against Norwich. It&#039;s too bad that the Oxburgh panel left so quickly and didn&#039;t stay to savor its pleasures. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry you felt the need to criticise the city of Norwich.</p>
<p>As someone who lives here, I have to disagree and urge you to stick to what you arte good at, as assessing the quality of a city is obviously not one of your skills.</p>
<p><strong>Steve:</strong> no offence meant against Norwich. It&#8217;s too bad that the Oxburgh panel left so quickly and didn&#8217;t stay to savor its pleasures. </p>
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		<title>By: pat</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/09/08/oxburgh-tricks-the-committee/#comment-241042</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 04:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is why Lord Oxburgh would like to do away with FOI. Tricks are becoming difficult to hide.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why Lord Oxburgh would like to do away with FOI. Tricks are becoming difficult to hide.</p>
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		<title>By: Top Posts &#8212; WordPress.com</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Top Posts &#8212; WordPress.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 00:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...]  Oxburgh Tricks the Committee: 45 Hours in Norwich In response to a question asking Oxburgh about criticisms that the report &#8211; all five of pages of it &#8211; [...] [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  Oxburgh Tricks the Committee: 45 Hours in Norwich In response to a question asking Oxburgh about criticisms that the report &#8211; all five of pages of it &#8211; [...] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: HaroldW</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/09/08/oxburgh-tricks-the-committee/#comment-241009</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HaroldW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With the update, sounds like Steve has worked out the &quot;person-days&quot; reference accurately. That covers the time spent at Norwich. As for preparation, it&#039;s obvious that Prof. Kelly spent considerable time in reviewing UEA papers advance of the visit. It&#039;s not apparent to me about the others. Prof. Emanuel at least would probably not need to read the papers specifically for the review; he&#039;d most likely have read them already.

I wonder if any of the other panel members invested time in advance, or if only Prof. Kelly did his due diligence. We&#039;ve heard that the RS&#039;s list of suggested papers [let&#039;s not go into who actually selected them and vetted the list] was only a jumping-off point; Oxburgh: &quot;everyone went far beyond this and examined other published and unpublished material.&quot; Aside from Kelly&#039;s notes, do we really know that other panelists read the selected papers, or additional material?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the update, sounds like Steve has worked out the &#8220;person-days&#8221; reference accurately. That covers the time spent at Norwich. As for preparation, it&#8217;s obvious that Prof. Kelly spent considerable time in reviewing UEA papers advance of the visit. It&#8217;s not apparent to me about the others. Prof. Emanuel at least would probably not need to read the papers specifically for the review; he&#8217;d most likely have read them already.</p>
<p>I wonder if any of the other panel members invested time in advance, or if only Prof. Kelly did his due diligence. We&#8217;ve heard that the RS&#8217;s list of suggested papers [let's not go into who actually selected them and vetted the list] was only a jumping-off point; Oxburgh: &#8220;everyone went far beyond this and examined other published and unpublished material.&#8221; Aside from Kelly&#8217;s notes, do we really know that other panelists read the selected papers, or additional material?</p>
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		<title>By: John R T</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/09/08/oxburgh-tricks-the-committee/#comment-240983</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John R T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 18:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you.

It will have a place at www.etymonline.com.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>It will have a place at <a href="http://www.etymonline.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.etymonline.com</a>.</p>
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