Comments on: Copygate http://climateaudit.org/2010/10/12/copygate/ by Steve McIntyre Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:55:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Climate Scientists’ Road to Hell | 2012 The Awakening http://climateaudit.org/2010/10/12/copygate/#comment-389363 Sun, 30 Dec 2012 11:13:33 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=12122#comment-389363 [...] Copygate produced bluster over plagiarism of a book (by Raymond Bradley) by Edward Wegman’s report to Congress investigating hockey sticks before it was shown that Bradley had copied captions from a 1976 book, also without citation. Eventually Wegman was “slapped on the wrist” for ‘extensive paraphrasing’ and ‘poor attribution’. But lack of attribution seems common enough in climate science. Kevin Trenberth was caught out by Steve McIntyre and quietly added citations, while Anthony Watts handled attribution oversight by Matt Menne and NOAA in an exemplary manner.  At blog level Gavin Schmidt at RealClimate has certainly incorporated information without acknowledgement, probably out of pettiness as Steve McIntyre suggests. [...]

]]> By: Climate Scientists’ Road to Hell | Watts Up With That? http://climateaudit.org/2010/10/12/copygate/#comment-388770 Fri, 28 Dec 2012 00:09:56 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=12122#comment-388770 [...] Copygate produced bluster over plagiarism of a book (by Raymond Bradley) by Edward Wegman’s report to Congress investigating hockey sticks before it was shown that Bradley had copied captions from a 1976 book, also without citation. Eventually Wegman was “slapped on the wrist” for ‘extensive paraphrasing’ and ‘poor attribution’. But lack of attribution seems common enough in climate science. Kevin Trenberth was caught out by Steve McIntyre and quietly added citations, while Anthony Watts handled attribution oversight by Matt Menne and NOAA in an exemplary manner.  At blog level Gavin Schmidt at RealClimate has certainly incorporated information without acknowledgement, probably out of pettiness as Steve McIntyre suggests. [...]

]]> By: Climate Scientists’ Road to Hell | Digging in the Clay http://climateaudit.org/2010/10/12/copygate/#comment-388754 Thu, 27 Dec 2012 23:36:35 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=12122#comment-388754 [...] Copygate produced bluster over plagiarism of a book (by Raymond Bradley) by Edward Wegman’s report to Congress investigating hockey sticks before it was shown that Bradley had copied captions from a 1976 book, also without citation. Eventually Wegman was “slapped on the wrist” for ‘extensive paraphrasing’ and ‘poor attribution’. But lack of attribution seems common enough in climate science. Kevin Trenberth was caught out by Steve McIntyre and quietly added citations, while Anthony Watts handled attribution oversight by Matt Menne and NOAA in an exemplary manner.  At blog level Gavin Schmidt at RealClimate has certainly incorporated information without acknowledgement, probably out of pettiness as Steve McIntyre suggests. [...]

]]> By: ATI’s Chesser in American Spectator: Michael Mann Acts http://climateaudit.org/2010/10/12/copygate/#comment-303180 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:59:25 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=12122#comment-303180 [...] Virginia state educational institution. Bradley had accused Wegman of plagiarizing his work (more meaningless “boilerplate,” according to Climate Audit, irrelevant to Wegman’s findings) in his 2006 report that [...]

]]> By: Trenberth and Lifting Text Verbatim | Another Newyork Times http://climateaudit.org/2010/10/12/copygate/#comment-252279 Fri, 14 Jan 2011 23:59:08 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=12122#comment-252279 [...] was just lifted verbatim from my book and placed in the Wegman Report”. See CA discussion e.g. here here – posts which included criticism of the Wegman Report in respect to its citation of [...]

]]> By: Trenberth and Copygate « Climate Audit http://climateaudit.org/2010/10/12/copygate/#comment-252201 Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:21:01 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=12122#comment-252201 [...] was just lifted verbatim from my book and placed in the Wegman Report”. See CA discussion e.g. here here – posts which included criticism of the Wegman Report in respect to its citation of [...]

]]> By: Donald Rapp http://climateaudit.org/2010/10/12/copygate/#comment-251639 Fri, 07 Jan 2011 15:02:17 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=12122#comment-251639 Steve: I stopped paying any attention to DC a long time ago.

The only private statement I can recall was that Wegman said: “It is my opinion that Dr. Rapp has not plagiarized anything and I hold him harmless.”

It is noteworthy that Bradley says in an email that he will not prosecute Wegman if Wegman removes his report from the Congressional Archives. This is a desperate attempt to avoid technical criticism.

Meanwhile, the hockey stick lives and flourishes while DC has the community dancing to his tune of “plagiarism”.

]]> By: Steve McIntyre http://climateaudit.org/2010/10/12/copygate/#comment-251602 Fri, 07 Jan 2011 04:13:15 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=12122#comment-251602 Deep Climate linked to this thread stating:

Rapp had already aired various private statements from Wegman at ClimateAudit and WattsUpWithThat.

I reviewed Rapp’s comments and none of them here, as far as I can tell, “airs” a private statement from Wegman. Perhaps he did so at WUWT, but doesn’t seem to have done so here.

]]> By: Wegman on Deep Climate | Deep Climate http://climateaudit.org/2010/10/12/copygate/#comment-251599 Fri, 07 Jan 2011 03:36:34 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=12122#comment-251599 [...] this latest batch of revelations, Rapp had already aired various private statements from Wegman at ClimateAudit and WattsUpWithThat. With ever so discreet friends like that, who needs [...]

]]> By: Alex Harvey http://climateaudit.org/2010/10/12/copygate/#comment-244335 Wed, 27 Oct 2010 05:06:27 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=12122#comment-244335 Dear Steve/others,

One of John Mashey’s more serious allegations against Wegman et al. is that he has silently inverted some of Bradley’s conclusions. In particular, in Wegman ‘para 3′ it is stated

“Because the early history of tree rings confounds climatic signal with low frequency specimen specific signal, tree rings are not usually effective for accurately determining low frequency, longer term effects.”

From http://deepclimate.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/wegman-bradley-tree-rings-v20.pdf

It seems there are three possibilities here:

(1) Mashey is right, and Wegman really has silently distorted the Bradley text by substituting his own opinion or someone else’s uncited opinion here.

(2) Mashey is wrong; there is no actual contradiction between what Wegman says and what Bradley says, and lay people like me are just confused.

(3) Mashey is wrong; although Wegman is not following Bradley here, he is following another authoritative text which disagrees with Bradley that is listed in his bibliography. If so, the question would then become what is the text Wegman is following here?

Can anyone help to resolve this mystery?

Best, Alex

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