Comments on: Escape from Jonestown

By: Hansen and IPCC’s Green Kool-aid « Climate Audit

Hansen and IPCC’s Green Kool-aid « Climate Audit — Sat, 13 Aug 2011 18:00:12 +0000

[...] generational metaphor based on the mass homicide of cult followers at Jonestown (mentioned at CA here) that caused a sensation when Hansen and I were younger. Hansen: Indeed, it [reliance on soft [...]

By: Atomic Hairdryer

Atomic Hairdryer — Fri, 26 Nov 2010 14:52:22 +0000

Thanks, assumed that was the case. Shame the picture isn’t sharper to see the difference in rock face. As for climate science vs mining, in mining ‘adjusting’ ore from other samples or locations also leads to problems in mining, but not climate science.

By: Stacey

Stacey — Wed, 24 Nov 2010 14:11:13 +0000

I received the following from the Guardians of truth at Nature. Please can someone tell me where they have “hidden” my post? Maybe they meant deleted.

The following post you wrote on the Nature News website has been hidden by the moderator in accordance with our terms and conditions.

From: Michael Mann To: Phil Jones Subject: Re: IPCC & FOI
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:12:02 -0400
Reply-to:
Hi Phil,
laughable that CA would claim to have discovered the problem. They would
have run off to the Wall Street Journal for an exclusive were that to
have been true.
I’ll contact Gene about this ASAP. His new email is: talk to you later,
mike
Phil Jones wrote:
>
>> Mike,
> Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re AR4?
> Keith will do likewise. He’s not in at the moment – minor family crisis.
>
> Can you also email Gene and get him to do the same? I don’t
> have his new email address.
>
> We will be getting Caspar to do likewise.
>
> I see that CA claim they discovered the 1945 problem in the Nature
> paper!!
>
> Chee rs
> Phil
>
> Prof. Phil Jones
> Climatic Research Unit Telephone [removed]
> School of Environmental Sciences Fax [removed]
> University of East Anglia
> Norwich Email
> NR4 7TJ
> UK

It is quite nauseating that Dr Jones is presented as a victim in this, reading the above one can only come to one conclusion.

By: Geoff Sherrington

Geoff Sherrington — Wed, 24 Nov 2010 08:33:20 +0000

I plagiarised the image using a screen cap from ABBYY Fine Reader, then outlined and added contrast to the figure using Corel PhotoPaint. All excellent products. So, what you see is “enhanced, unattributed raw data”, a familiar phrase…… At least I confess to mine.

Miners do these blokey things to each other with tongue in cheek. Part of the baggage.

By: Geoff Sherrington

Geoff Sherrington — Wed, 24 Nov 2010 08:18:41 +0000

They define blocks with different grade. Analogy in climate science is cells defined by lat and long. The main difference is, that if miners get the grades of the blocks wrong too often, they go insolvent and for all I know, might head off for a career in climate science.

By: Jeff Alberts

Jeff Alberts — Wed, 24 Nov 2010 02:17:38 +0000

Hockey stick illusion?

By: Martin K

Martin K — Wed, 24 Nov 2010 02:11:26 +0000

The late Shiva Naipal(younger brother of VS) wrote an insightful and very funny book about the Jonestown suicides, “Black and White”. I think it was released in the USA as “Journey to Nowhere”.

By: kim

kim — Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:25:14 +0000

Mind you the mine man:
The big red F stands for False
On the face of it.
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By: Atomic Hairdryer

Atomic Hairdryer — Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:53:19 +0000

O/T, but what are the ‘cave markings’ for? Are they ‘cut here’ indicators? Knowing nothing about mining, puzzled by their regularity.

By: oneuniverse

oneuniverse — Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:43:42 +0000

My comment is only true for the version on Geoff’s website, which I assume has been artistically enhanced to illustrate Geoff’s imaginative vision mentioned above – if one applies the same procedure to the image at CA, the lower half of the shadow is indistinct.