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		<title>By: Hu McCulloch</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/11/30/assange-on-climategate/#comment-298590</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hu McCulloch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very interesting -- Dennis has posted technically helpful comments on CA occasionally as well, as I recall.  Has his career overtly suffered from his willingness to communicate?  

(He&#039;s probably been shunned by the Team, but that&#039;s hard to quantify.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting &#8212; Dennis has posted technically helpful comments on CA occasionally as well, as I recall.  Has his career overtly suffered from his willingness to communicate?  </p>
<p>(He&#8217;s probably been shunned by the Team, but that&#8217;s hard to quantify.)</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Drake</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/11/30/assange-on-climategate/#comment-298584</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Drake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-298577&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hu McCulloch (Jul 18 10:51)&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Just a hypothesis, but it might account for Assange’s odd claim.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well worth returning to. The hypothesis doesn&#039;t ring true for me though, in that anyone already able to hack into and take control of RealClimate then link to the zip file on a Russian (or any other) server from various sceptic blogs has no need of WikiLeaks.

The attack on Paul Dennis is a different thing - and the singular use of David Leigh as a conduit. Well worth hypothesizing, at every level.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-298577" rel="nofollow">Hu McCulloch (Jul 18 10:51)</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Just a hypothesis, but it might account for Assange’s odd claim.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well worth returning to. The hypothesis doesn&#8217;t ring true for me though, in that anyone already able to hack into and take control of RealClimate then link to the zip file on a Russian (or any other) server from various sceptic blogs has no need of WikiLeaks.</p>
<p>The attack on Paul Dennis is a different thing &#8211; and the singular use of David Leigh as a conduit. Well worth hypothesizing, at every level.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve McIntyre</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/11/30/assange-on-climategate/#comment-298583</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve McIntyre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The following article is a dig-here in light of recent events: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/feb/04/climate-change-email-hacking-leaks and I suggest that people re-read it very carefully.  The hatchet-job on Paul Dennis seemed inexplicable at the time. &quot;University sources&quot; are referred to but not identified. Can one reasonably wonder whether Neil Wallis was involved in planting this article with The Guardian?  Sure seems like a possibility worth investigating. 

The article has a potential connection to Wikileaks as well. Most people who have written on climategate write more than one article. However, to my knowledge, this was David Leigh&#039;s one and only venture into the climategate fray. Now google &quot;david leigh unsung hero&quot; and he connects to the Wikileaks story.  Is it anything other than coincidence? Dunno. A dig-here.

There are other even more interesting aspects to the article, which needs to be parsed paragraph-by-paragraph in light of the suspected Neil Wallis involvement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following article is a dig-here in light of recent events: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/feb/04/climate-change-email-hacking-leaks" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/feb/04/climate-change-email-hacking-leaks</a> and I suggest that people re-read it very carefully.  The hatchet-job on Paul Dennis seemed inexplicable at the time. &#8220;University sources&#8221; are referred to but not identified. Can one reasonably wonder whether Neil Wallis was involved in planting this article with The Guardian?  Sure seems like a possibility worth investigating. </p>
<p>The article has a potential connection to Wikileaks as well. Most people who have written on climategate write more than one article. However, to my knowledge, this was David Leigh&#8217;s one and only venture into the climategate fray. Now google &#8220;david leigh unsung hero&#8221; and he connects to the Wikileaks story.  Is it anything other than coincidence? Dunno. A dig-here.</p>
<p>There are other even more interesting aspects to the article, which needs to be parsed paragraph-by-paragraph in light of the suspected Neil Wallis involvement.</p>
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		<title>By: Hu McCulloch</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/11/30/assange-on-climategate/#comment-298577</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hu McCulloch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Neil Wallis&#039;s participation in UEA&#039;s response to Climategate raises anew questions about Assange&#039;s odd claim that Wikileaks had something to do with the leak.  

We&#039;re still in the dark as to what really happened, but here&#039;s a hypothesis consistent with the facts (I think):  

A UEA insider -- perhaps an IT person who had a scientific background and Wikileaks contacts but was not in the climate science clique -- was inspired by blog controversy and Wikileak successes to leak the e-mails via Wikileaks.  However, the Wikileaks server happened to be down at the time he or she was ready to leak, and hence the leaker resorted instead to an insecure Russian server plus a tip on RC (unsuccessful) and then tAV (successful).  

Assange could thus take some valid credit for inspiring the leak, even if his organization in fact had no hand in its actual implementation.  

UEA then hired Wallis to spin the leak as an outside hack, perhaps by Russian intelligence agents, in order to distract attention away from CRU&#039;s anti-scientific efforts to keep its data secret.

Just a hypothesis, but it might account for Assange&#039;s odd claim.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil Wallis&#8217;s participation in UEA&#8217;s response to Climategate raises anew questions about Assange&#8217;s odd claim that Wikileaks had something to do with the leak.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;re still in the dark as to what really happened, but here&#8217;s a hypothesis consistent with the facts (I think):  </p>
<p>A UEA insider &#8212; perhaps an IT person who had a scientific background and Wikileaks contacts but was not in the climate science clique &#8212; was inspired by blog controversy and Wikileak successes to leak the e-mails via Wikileaks.  However, the Wikileaks server happened to be down at the time he or she was ready to leak, and hence the leaker resorted instead to an insecure Russian server plus a tip on RC (unsuccessful) and then tAV (successful).  </p>
<p>Assange could thus take some valid credit for inspiring the leak, even if his organization in fact had no hand in its actual implementation.  </p>
<p>UEA then hired Wallis to spin the leak as an outside hack, perhaps by Russian intelligence agents, in order to distract attention away from CRU&#8217;s anti-scientific efforts to keep its data secret.</p>
<p>Just a hypothesis, but it might account for Assange&#8217;s odd claim.</p>
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		<title>By: WikiLeaks &#38; Climategate &#124; simonjmeath</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/11/30/assange-on-climategate/#comment-267249</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WikiLeaks &#38; Climategate &#124; simonjmeath]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2011 13:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] &#8216;Assange on Climategate&#8217; http://climateaudit.org/2010/11/30/assange-on-climategate/ [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8216;Assange on Climategate&#8217; <a href="http://climateaudit.org/2010/11/30/assange-on-climategate/" rel="nofollow">http://climateaudit.org/2010/11/30/assange-on-climategate/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Drake</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/11/30/assange-on-climategate/#comment-251655</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Drake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 17:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems Scott Gilmore was right - based on how Robert Mugabe is now using the latest WikiLeaks material to charge his enemies with sedition. See today&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/06/AR2011010604381.html?wpisrc=nl_opinions&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Washington Post&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems Scott Gilmore was right &#8211; based on how Robert Mugabe is now using the latest WikiLeaks material to charge his enemies with sedition. See today&#8217;s <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/06/AR2011010604381.html?wpisrc=nl_opinions" rel="nofollow">Washington Post</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: A Look into the Delusions of the Narcissist, Julian Assange &#171; MN Prager Discussion Group</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/11/30/assange-on-climategate/#comment-250991</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Look into the Delusions of the Narcissist, Julian Assange &#171; MN Prager Discussion Group]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 06:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] be the wrong move. One of the people who isn’t afraid to go intellectually up against Assange is Steve McIntyre, one of the pioneering climate skeptics, who rebuts the Wikileak’s founder’s claim that he [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] be the wrong move. One of the people who isn’t afraid to go intellectually up against Assange is Steve McIntyre, one of the pioneering climate skeptics, who rebuts the Wikileak’s founder’s claim that he [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Julian Assange claiming he broke Climategate emails on Wikileaks &#171; Climate Change Denier</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/11/30/assange-on-climategate/#comment-250185</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julian Assange claiming he broke Climategate emails on Wikileaks &#171; Climate Change Denier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 12:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] it was an inside job. Julian Assange timelines don&#8217;t seem to agree.  Steve McIntyre on Climateaudit.org says that people were downloading the files from the Russian server two days before the Climategate [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it was an inside job. Julian Assange timelines don&#8217;t seem to agree.  Steve McIntyre on Climateaudit.org says that people were downloading the files from the Russian server two days before the Climategate [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Climategate&#8211;the Made Up Story, or Mr. Assange, WUWT? &#124; Watts Up With That?</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/11/30/assange-on-climategate/#comment-250128</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Climategate&#8211;the Made Up Story, or Mr. Assange, WUWT? &#124; Watts Up With That?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 05:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] on Climate Audit, Steve McIntyre recounts: Assange falsely claimed that the Climategate emails were broken by WikiLeaks. This is obviously [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on Climate Audit, Steve McIntyre recounts: Assange falsely claimed that the Climategate emails were broken by WikiLeaks. This is obviously [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Assange tries to take credit for Climategate..and backs the corrupt scientists..the jury has its verdict &#171; Follow The Money</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/11/30/assange-on-climategate/#comment-249132</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Assange tries to take credit for Climategate..and backs the corrupt scientists..the jury has its verdict &#171; Follow The Money]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 22:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] http://climateaudit.org/2010/11/30/assange-on-climategate/ [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://climateaudit.org/2010/11/30/assange-on-climategate/" rel="nofollow">http://climateaudit.org/2010/11/30/assange-on-climategate/</a> [...]</p>
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