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	<title>Comments on: New Light on UHI</title>
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		<title>By: Steven Mosher</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/12/15/new-light-on-uhi/#comment-362532</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Mosher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ha bender. see what Moshpit does with this]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha bender. see what Moshpit does with this</p>
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		<title>By: What the BEST data actually says &#124; My Blog</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/12/15/new-light-on-uhi/#comment-307463</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What the BEST data actually says &#124; My Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The BEST folks say that there is no urban heat island (UHI) effect detectable in their analysis. Their actual claim is that “urban warming does not unduly bias estimates of recent global temperature change”. Here’s a comment from NASA, which indicates that, well, there might be a bias. Emphasis mine. The compact city of Providence, R.I., for example, has surface temperatures that are about 12.2 °C (21.9 °F) warmer than the surrounding countryside, while similarly-sized but spread-out Buffalo, N.Y., produces a heat island of only about 7.2 °C (12.9 °F), according to satellite data. SOURCE [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The BEST folks say that there is no urban heat island (UHI) effect detectable in their analysis. Their actual claim is that “urban warming does not unduly bias estimates of recent global temperature change”. Here’s a comment from NASA, which indicates that, well, there might be a bias. Emphasis mine. The compact city of Providence, R.I., for example, has surface temperatures that are about 12.2 °C (21.9 °F) warmer than the surrounding countryside, while similarly-sized but spread-out Buffalo, N.Y., produces a heat island of only about 7.2 °C (12.9 °F), according to satellite data. SOURCE [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What the BEST data actually says &#124; TaJnB &#124; TheAverageJoeNewsBlogg</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/12/15/new-light-on-uhi/#comment-307448</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What the BEST data actually says &#124; TaJnB &#124; TheAverageJoeNewsBlogg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 01:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The BEST folks say that there is no urban heat island (UHI) effect detectable in their analysis. Their actual claim is that “urban warming does not unduly bias estimates of recent global temperature change”. Here’s a comment from NASA, which indicates that, well, there might be a bias. Emphasis mine. The compact city of Providence, R.I., for example, has surface temperatures that are about 12.2 °C (21.9 °F) warmer than the surrounding countryside, while similarly-sized but spread-out Buffalo, N.Y., produces a heat island of only about 7.2 °C (12.9 °F), according to satellite data. SOURCE [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The BEST folks say that there is no urban heat island (UHI) effect detectable in their analysis. Their actual claim is that “urban warming does not unduly bias estimates of recent global temperature change”. Here’s a comment from NASA, which indicates that, well, there might be a bias. Emphasis mine. The compact city of Providence, R.I., for example, has surface temperatures that are about 12.2 °C (21.9 °F) warmer than the surrounding countryside, while similarly-sized but spread-out Buffalo, N.Y., produces a heat island of only about 7.2 °C (12.9 °F), according to satellite data. SOURCE [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What the BEST data actually says &#124; Watts Up With That?</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/12/15/new-light-on-uhi/#comment-307439</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What the BEST data actually says &#124; Watts Up With That?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 23:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The BEST folks say that there is no urban heat island (UHI) effect detectable in their analysis. Here&#8217;s a comment from NASA, which indicates that, well, there might be a problem. Emphasis mine. The compact city of Providence, R.I., for example, has surface temperatures that are about 12.2 °C (21.9 °F) warmer than the surrounding countryside, while similarly-sized but spread-out Buffalo, N.Y., produces a heat island of only about 7.2 °C (12.9 °F), according to satellite data. SOURCE [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The BEST folks say that there is no urban heat island (UHI) effect detectable in their analysis. Here&#8217;s a comment from NASA, which indicates that, well, there might be a problem. Emphasis mine. The compact city of Providence, R.I., for example, has surface temperatures that are about 12.2 °C (21.9 °F) warmer than the surrounding countryside, while similarly-sized but spread-out Buffalo, N.Y., produces a heat island of only about 7.2 °C (12.9 °F), according to satellite data. SOURCE [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BEST Study Confirms: Elvis, Skeptic UHI Claim Dead &#124; The Policy Lass</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/12/15/new-light-on-uhi/#comment-307160</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BEST Study Confirms: Elvis, Skeptic UHI Claim Dead &#124; The Policy Lass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 23:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] years, certain climate contrarians and self-styled skeptics have suggested that the temperature records have been contaminated by illegitimate adjustments, poor [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] years, certain climate contrarians and self-styled skeptics have suggested that the temperature records have been contaminated by illegitimate adjustments, poor [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/12/15/new-light-on-uhi/#comment-251932</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 04:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[in conclusion a study that would be interesting and relivent  would be that of city  imports  such as foods that people and pets eat  and turn into calories  which in turn become heat and fuels that are burned  becoming heat and also electric energy consumption.
and these compared to the UHI to see if they have any direct coralation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in conclusion a study that would be interesting and relivent  would be that of city  imports  such as foods that people and pets eat  and turn into calories  which in turn become heat and fuels that are burned  becoming heat and also electric energy consumption.<br />
and these compared to the UHI to see if they have any direct coralation.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/12/15/new-light-on-uhi/#comment-251931</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 04:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[another point i would like to add it that of  energy use and the reason for it creating energy creates heat and  each action has a oposite and equal action so using enry also creates heat  through friction wheater it be in the engine burning the fuel or the friction of the air pasing over the car  or air plane  and the act of compresing air  creates heat so avery activity taking place inside a city is producing heat]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another point i would like to add it that of  energy use and the reason for it creating energy creates heat and  each action has a oposite and equal action so using enry also creates heat  through friction wheater it be in the engine burning the fuel or the friction of the air pasing over the car  or air plane  and the act of compresing air  creates heat so avery activity taking place inside a city is producing heat</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/12/15/new-light-on-uhi/#comment-251930</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 03:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[growing up in the rural comunity then moving to  and living in many citys  in the USA i am now back on the ranch  and all things concidered the on thing that  no one is looking at is the heat generated not only by the cars driven and machinery and othere heat generators for heating homes and such is the fact that  people are 
98.6 F and growing up on the farm we had 20 milk cows in a barn that was 30foot wide by 60 foot long  it had no insulation in the dead of the winter at -10f we had to run a fan to remove the exess heat from the building or it got up to nearly 100F inside you put 20 people in a room together they grenerate huge amount of heat now put 200,000 people in one place how much heat will they generate?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>growing up in the rural comunity then moving to  and living in many citys  in the USA i am now back on the ranch  and all things concidered the on thing that  no one is looking at is the heat generated not only by the cars driven and machinery and othere heat generators for heating homes and such is the fact that  people are<br />
98.6 F and growing up on the farm we had 20 milk cows in a barn that was 30foot wide by 60 foot long  it had no insulation in the dead of the winter at -10f we had to run a fan to remove the exess heat from the building or it got up to nearly 100F inside you put 20 people in a room together they grenerate huge amount of heat now put 200,000 people in one place how much heat will they generate?</p>
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		<title>By: Duster</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/12/15/new-light-on-uhi/#comment-251263</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Duster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 08:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Old houses of frame construction, speaking as an owner of one, may very well be entirely uninsulated.  Alternatively, a previous owner may have gotten the itch to try and fix things and this can range from crumpled news papers stuffed into the spaces between studs - I&#039;ve found papers dating to World War I in stud spaces in old structures - to blown-in insulation, typically mulched paper.  Anyway, the point here is that in areas of older buildings, especially poorer neighborhoods, the signature from winter heating should be very pronounced compared to more recently built neighborhoods.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old houses of frame construction, speaking as an owner of one, may very well be entirely uninsulated.  Alternatively, a previous owner may have gotten the itch to try and fix things and this can range from crumpled news papers stuffed into the spaces between studs &#8211; I&#8217;ve found papers dating to World War I in stud spaces in old structures &#8211; to blown-in insulation, typically mulched paper.  Anyway, the point here is that in areas of older buildings, especially poorer neighborhoods, the signature from winter heating should be very pronounced compared to more recently built neighborhoods.</p>
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		<title>By: Duster</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2010/12/15/new-light-on-uhi/#comment-251257</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Duster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 06:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The strongest effects per capita are very likely rural rather than urban.  Rural stations are usually - at least here in California - in small towns along rail lines.  At least historically that is how those towns came to be.  The region around many of those town is now extensively altered through agriculture.  Regions that were grazing land or winter wheat as late as the 1950s are now vineyards, orchards, and rice paddies - all extensively irrigated.  The northern and southern ends of the Central Valley tend to be the least affected by agriculture, but both ends have seen extensive development in the last 30-40 years.  I think Hansen has his adjustment signs inverted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The strongest effects per capita are very likely rural rather than urban.  Rural stations are usually &#8211; at least here in California &#8211; in small towns along rail lines.  At least historically that is how those towns came to be.  The region around many of those town is now extensively altered through agriculture.  Regions that were grazing land or winter wheat as late as the 1950s are now vineyards, orchards, and rice paddies &#8211; all extensively irrigated.  The northern and southern ends of the Central Valley tend to be the least affected by agriculture, but both ends have seen extensive development in the last 30-40 years.  I think Hansen has his adjustment signs inverted.</p>
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