Comments on: Trenberth and Lifting Text Verbatim #2

By: Climate Scientists’ Road to Hell | 2012 The Awakening

Climate Scientists’ Road to Hell | 2012 The Awakening — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 11:13:40 +0000

[...] and ‘poor attribution’. But lack of attribution seems common enough in climate science. Kevin Trenberth was caught out by Steve McIntyre and quietly added citations, while Anthony Watts handled [...]

By: Climate Scientists’ Road to Hell | Watts Up With That?

Climate Scientists’ Road to Hell | Watts Up With That? — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 00:10:02 +0000

By: Climate Scientists’ Road to Hell | Digging in the Clay

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By: Trenberth gets a rebuttal to Spencer and Braswell published: turnaround 1 day | Watts Up With That?

Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:00:25 +0000

[...] Trenberth’s presentation to the American Meteorological Society earlier this year (see here here here), Trenberth et al 2011 was not [...]

By: RomanM

RomanM — Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:04:50 +0000

Try looking at the post by Ryan on WUWT.

By: Hu McCulloch

Hu McCulloch — Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:50:37 +0000

Any word on how Trenberth’s talk went last in Seattle last weekend?

By: Interested N-S

Interested N-S — Sat, 22 Jan 2011 23:14:15 +0000

The striking thing about Dr. T, and confirmed by this speech, is that as a scientist, he has decided the outcome from the start, and will defend that position regardless, including refusing to debate it. Time therefore to stop referring to him as a scientist. His position and actions are clearly political advocacy.

Also, if he’s comfortable calling people ‘deniers’, how about applying the phrase ‘deceiver’ in return.

By: EdeF

EdeF — Thu, 20 Jan 2011 21:48:57 +0000

Reads like the Team has written their Climategate narrative and the plan is to get out there and tell the story to the media, at AMS meetings, etc. Can’t they even change the wording just a little from one guy to the next? I
would feel weird in parroting what someone else wrote. Why the use of heavily charged words such as deniers and lies? Why the great fear in engaging in debate?

By: Warmists: ‘We can’t win the game, so let’s change the rules’ | EUTimes.net

Thu, 20 Jan 2011 07:28:47 +0000

[...] verbatim from another scientist and for its use six times of the word “denier”. (Thanks to some kindly advice proferred by Steve McIntyre, Trenberth has now significantly altered his speech. But not – as I incorrectly reported earlier [...]

By: Shallow Climate

Shallow Climate — Tue, 18 Jan 2011 23:34:09 +0000

I will add here that in fact Trenberth’s “coopering up” is still WOEFULLY insufficient. All he has done is insert references, leaving everything else as is: in other words, he has not enclosed his direct quotes in quotation marks.(!) This HAS to be done with any direct quote from another, not just giving a reference. As they now stand, Trenberth’s coopered up revisions are saying that the thoughts/insights/findings are Hasselmann’s, but that the WORDING OF THEM is Trenberth’s. This, of course, as SM has so carefully demonstrated, is totally false. Nor will it do for Trenberth to change one or two inconsequential words here and there in the quote and thus pass it off as his own wording. Why is he trying to get away with this junk? Frankly, I find that merely adding citations, but without the quotation marks, is actually no better than before, or even worse: it adds insult to injury. Sadly, apparently, this is “normal” in Teamville.