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	<title>Comments on: Judy Curry on Hide the Decline</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Yancey Ward</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/02/23/judy-curry-on-hide-the-decline/#comment-256884</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yancey Ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 20:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Curry&#039;s is a brave stance.

On the tree-ring data, I still believe something can be salvaged from such data, but this requires the science to actively study cause and effect in a contemporaneous fashion with high precision scientific measurements.  This blind adherence to warmth=greater growth, etc., except when it doesn&#039;t tell the right story, is simply indefensible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curry&#8217;s is a brave stance.</p>
<p>On the tree-ring data, I still believe something can be salvaged from such data, but this requires the science to actively study cause and effect in a contemporaneous fashion with high precision scientific measurements.  This blind adherence to warmth=greater growth, etc., except when it doesn&#8217;t tell the right story, is simply indefensible.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/02/23/judy-curry-on-hide-the-decline/#comment-256877</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those posts make ClimateAudit threads look easy to read.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those posts make ClimateAudit threads look easy to read.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/02/23/judy-curry-on-hide-the-decline/#comment-256876</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had a question about hide the decline.  
When Phil Jones says &#039;to hide the decline&#039; what is that phrase modifying?  Is it only for cutting Briffa&#039;s chart at 1960, or for using Mike&#039;s Nature Trick?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a question about hide the decline.<br />
When Phil Jones says &#8216;to hide the decline&#8217; what is that phrase modifying?  Is it only for cutting Briffa&#8217;s chart at 1960, or for using Mike&#8217;s Nature Trick?</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy Skywalker</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/02/23/judy-curry-on-hide-the-decline/#comment-256835</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lucy Skywalker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-256530&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Barry Woods (Feb 23 18:40)&lt;/a&gt;, 
&lt;blockquote&gt;The decision to hide the decline, and the dogged refusal to admit that this was an error, has endangered the credibility of the whole of climate science. &lt;strong&gt;If the rot is not stopped then the credibility of the whole of science will eventually come into question&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thank you Prof James. Not to forget Pastor Martin Niemoller &lt;blockquote&gt;First they came for the communists, and I didn&#039;t speak out because I wasn&#039;t a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn&#039;t speak out because I wasn&#039;t a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I didn&#039;t speak out because I wasn&#039;t a Jew.

Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-256530" rel="nofollow">Barry Woods (Feb 23 18:40)</a>, </p>
<blockquote><p>The decision to hide the decline, and the dogged refusal to admit that this was an error, has endangered the credibility of the whole of climate science. <strong>If the rot is not stopped then the credibility of the whole of science will eventually come into question</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Thank you Prof James. Not to forget Pastor Martin Niemoller<br />
<blockquote>First they came for the communists, and I didn&#8217;t speak out because I wasn&#8217;t a communist.</p>
<p>Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn&#8217;t speak out because I wasn&#8217;t a trade unionist.</p>
<p>Then they came for the Jews, and I didn&#8217;t speak out because I wasn&#8217;t a Jew.</p>
<p>Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Gerald Browning</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/02/23/judy-curry-on-hide-the-decline/#comment-256810</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerald Browning]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 05:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Judith Curry is not the angel you portray. I posted the following comment on her blog.

Judith,

I am not a fan of Gavin, but the logic in your defense of your manuscript
based on the letter of agreement between hurricane scientists (?) is flawed.
The letter only states that living on the gulf coast is dangerous (trivial conclusion) and nothing about the accuracy of the conclusions in your manuscript.

Jerry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judith Curry is not the angel you portray. I posted the following comment on her blog.</p>
<p>Judith,</p>
<p>I am not a fan of Gavin, but the logic in your defense of your manuscript<br />
based on the letter of agreement between hurricane scientists (?) is flawed.<br />
The letter only states that living on the gulf coast is dangerous (trivial conclusion) and nothing about the accuracy of the conclusions in your manuscript.</p>
<p>Jerry</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald Browning</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/02/23/judy-curry-on-hide-the-decline/#comment-256790</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerald Browning]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 01:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t forget that Judith Curry was one of the &quot;scientists&quot; claiming a connection between increased hurricane activity and
global warming with less than adequate data (see discussions on this blog).

Jerry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget that Judith Curry was one of the &#8220;scientists&#8221; claiming a connection between increased hurricane activity and<br />
global warming with less than adequate data (see discussions on this blog).</p>
<p>Jerry</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Anderson</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/02/23/judy-curry-on-hide-the-decline/#comment-256692</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you may be on to something here!  LOL!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you may be on to something here!  LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: bernie</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/02/23/judy-curry-on-hide-the-decline/#comment-256682</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bernie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Barry:
Excellent find - one that should make Oxford alums proud - of course there will always be exceptions!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry:<br />
Excellent find &#8211; one that should make Oxford alums proud &#8211; of course there will always be exceptions!</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Woods</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/02/23/judy-curry-on-hide-the-decline/#comment-256681</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Woods]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Judith has said that Professor Jonathon James has contacted her to confirm it was him at Bishop Hill]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judith has said that Professor Jonathon James has contacted her to confirm it was him at Bishop Hill</p>
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		<title>By: Mark C</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/02/23/judy-curry-on-hide-the-decline/#comment-256677</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Gavin were task-saturated with blogging, I think that would be a net benefit.  Given we&#039;re obviously going to have to pay him anyway, where might he do the least harm?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Gavin were task-saturated with blogging, I think that would be a net benefit.  Given we&#8217;re obviously going to have to pay him anyway, where might he do the least harm?</p>
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