Comments on: What Did Penn State Know?

By: The American Spectator : Michael Mann Goes to the Zoo

The American Spectator : Michael Mann Goes to the Zoo — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 10:00:07 +0000

[...] problem with this is Mann told investigators at his place of employment, Pennsylvania State University, that he did not tell others to delete emails. Now his explanation [...]

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Deep Throat at Penn State « Climate Audit — Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:10:06 +0000

[...] Committee didn’t do their job, but pointed me to different reasons than those discussed in an earlier post on the [...]

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What Did Penn State Know? « Bee Auditor — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 07:27:23 +0000

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By: Iain McQueen

Iain McQueen — Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:24:35 +0000

Re: OldUnixHead (Mar 16 15:44), Yeah I hadn't realized that time gap, but remain deeply suspicious PSU enquiry had very selected info from Mann. The more so now that you point this out and compare with “From finding 2.) “Further, Dr. Mann produced upon request a full archive of his emails in and around the time of the preparation of AR4. The archive contained e-mails related to AR4.”

By: OldUnixHead

OldUnixHead — Wed, 16 Mar 2011 20:44:09 +0000

Remember, too, per DavidS (Mar 10 10:59 am), above, and our host somewhere else, that the "delete AR4 emails" email happened about a year and a half after "in and around the time of the preparation of AR4".

By: Iain McQueen

Iain McQueen — Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:46:59 +0000

Re: David44 (Mar 16 02:10), To David44 re;- "From finding 2.) “Further, Dr. Mann produced upon request a full archive of his emails in and around the time of the preparation of AR4. The archive contained e-mails related to AR4.” If Mann’s archive was indeed complete, the committee should have found his forward to Wahl of Jones’ email. Either it wasn’t complete or they didn’t look or they intentionally ignored it." Well did he send them all? He made his own zip file we are told. Perhaps it was a little selective?

By: David44

David44 — Wed, 16 Mar 2011 07:10:11 +0000

From finding 2.)
“Further, Dr. Mann produced upon request a full archive of his emails in and around the time of the preparation of AR4. The archive contained e-mails related to AR4.”

If Mann’s archive was indeed complete, the committee should have found his forward to Wahl of Jones’ email. Either it wasn’t complete or they didn’t look or they intentionally ignored it.

By: oneuniverse

oneuniverse — Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:32:19 +0000

If the Dec. 3 2009 Pittsburgh interview is an accurate account, Mann was aware, when he received Jones’ deletion request, that the request was inappropriate. Mann’s defense appears to be that the request was so clearly inappropriate that he assumed no further comment was required when forwarding to Wahl – [he incorrectly assumed that] Wahl would see things from the same high ethical perspective as himself, and would therefore not comply with the delete request. ie. Mann is pleading reckless incompetence.

Mann’s known actions, however, show only co-operation with Jones’ request to delete the correspondence – he replied in the affirmative to Jones’ request, and passed on the request to Wahl without any dissenting commentary.

By: Max_OK

Max_OK — Tue, 15 Mar 2011 02:46:36 +0000

I don’t suspect Mann did, nor do I suspect he didn’t. Now, If you suspect Mann did, what is your evidence?

If you suspect or accuse a person of wrong-doing, the burden of proof is on you. That’s the American way.