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	<title>Comments on: Is this a Nursery Story?</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Kieran</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/05/25/is-this-a-nursery-story/#comment-310390</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kieran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve, did you ever get a response to this?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, did you ever get a response to this?</p>
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		<title>By: Eli Rabett</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/05/25/is-this-a-nursery-story/#comment-281945</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eli Rabett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2011 02:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You mean the President of the Royal Society accurately reports what Chris Horner and Friends have put in their FOI request to UVa.  Fixed that]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean the President of the Royal Society accurately reports what Chris Horner and Friends have put in their FOI request to UVa.  Fixed that</p>
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		<title>By: thefordprefect</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/05/25/is-this-a-nursery-story/#comment-281221</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thefordprefect]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 17:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[McIntyre:
you asked for exaples of request for drafts, I gave you some, you bin the comments. I have therefore copied my post to my blog!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McIntyre:<br />
you asked for exaples of request for drafts, I gave you some, you bin the comments. I have therefore copied my post to my blog!</p>
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		<title>By: AJC</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/05/25/is-this-a-nursery-story/#comment-280949</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AJC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 00:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The UK FOI guidance notes are quite specific that &quot;The term &quot;vexatious&quot; is to have its ordinary meaning and there is no link with legal definitions from other contexts (ed vexatious litigants)&quot;.

A developing series of FOI requests seeking previously undisclosed material in the David Kelly case is currently being rejected as vexatious essentially on the grounds that they are all from a single individual and addressing the same &quot;subject&quot;.

Reviews of the decisions have been requested.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UK FOI guidance notes are quite specific that &#8220;The term &#8220;vexatious&#8221; is to have its ordinary meaning and there is no link with legal definitions from other contexts (ed vexatious litigants)&#8221;.</p>
<p>A developing series of FOI requests seeking previously undisclosed material in the David Kelly case is currently being rejected as vexatious essentially on the grounds that they are all from a single individual and addressing the same &#8220;subject&#8221;.</p>
<p>Reviews of the decisions have been requested.</p>
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		<title>By: thefordprefect</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/05/25/is-this-a-nursery-story/#comment-280897</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thefordprefect]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 20:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[please would you remove and post one of my comments from your spam bucket!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please would you remove and post one of my comments from your spam bucket!</p>
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		<title>By: AJC</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/05/25/is-this-a-nursery-story/#comment-280458</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AJC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 18:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;it is a fundamental principle of FOI that it is “motive blind”&quot;.

However it is open to the recipient to reject requests which are 
&quot;vexatious&quot; (section 14(1) of the Act).
&lt;strong&gt;
Steve- as mentioned previously, &quot;vexatious&quot; has a technical meaning in law that was developed long before FOI. It also occurs when seeking to dismiss suits. It has no relevance to my request for Yamal data.


&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;it is a fundamental principle of FOI that it is “motive blind”&#8221;.</p>
<p>However it is open to the recipient to reject requests which are<br />
&#8220;vexatious&#8221; (section 14(1) of the Act).<br />
<strong><br />
Steve- as mentioned previously, &#8220;vexatious&#8221; has a technical meaning in law that was developed long before FOI. It also occurs when seeking to dismiss suits. It has no relevance to my request for Yamal data.</p>
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		<title>By: steven mosher</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/05/25/is-this-a-nursery-story/#comment-279125</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steven mosher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 22:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-278871&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;thefordprefect (May 27 06:52)&lt;/a&gt;, again you miss the point.

Nurse made a hearsay claim. He claims he was told. My question: well, did you ask the
 person for proof, because the proof would be GREAT.


&quot;As far as I can tell, the institutions themselves block/deny all FOI possible, so they never reach the scientist at all. If Nurse is referring the the Mann subpoena, it is 1 “one” case, and a strange one (and not FOI at all).&quot;

For this to be similar Craig would have to say &quot; I&#039;ve been told that all institutions&quot;

In which case I&#039;d ask him

 1. who told you this
 2. did you ask that person for the back up data?

When he reports  &quot;as far as he knows&quot; he is claiming something about his knowledge.
and look what you can do. you can ask him the basis of his knowledge and he answers you.
See that you are doing EXACTLY what Nurse should have done. and everytime you do it
you demonstrate the fundamental difference between what you can do here and what Nurse should have done. You see how skepticism works now. X makes a claim. You ask X for evidence. When we see Nurse NOT exercising the skeptical method, we of course have good reason to dismiss him and his views.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-278871" rel="nofollow">thefordprefect (May 27 06:52)</a>, again you miss the point.</p>
<p>Nurse made a hearsay claim. He claims he was told. My question: well, did you ask the<br />
 person for proof, because the proof would be GREAT.</p>
<p>&#8220;As far as I can tell, the institutions themselves block/deny all FOI possible, so they never reach the scientist at all. If Nurse is referring the the Mann subpoena, it is 1 “one” case, and a strange one (and not FOI at all).&#8221;</p>
<p>For this to be similar Craig would have to say &#8221; I&#8217;ve been told that all institutions&#8221;</p>
<p>In which case I&#8217;d ask him</p>
<p> 1. who told you this<br />
 2. did you ask that person for the back up data?</p>
<p>When he reports  &#8220;as far as he knows&#8221; he is claiming something about his knowledge.<br />
and look what you can do. you can ask him the basis of his knowledge and he answers you.<br />
See that you are doing EXACTLY what Nurse should have done. and everytime you do it<br />
you demonstrate the fundamental difference between what you can do here and what Nurse should have done. You see how skepticism works now. X makes a claim. You ask X for evidence. When we see Nurse NOT exercising the skeptical method, we of course have good reason to dismiss him and his views.</p>
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		<title>By: Ordföranden för Royal Society vill minska insynen i forskningen &#124; The Climate Scam</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/05/25/is-this-a-nursery-story/#comment-279121</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ordföranden för Royal Society vill minska insynen i forskningen &#124; The Climate Scam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 22:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] även diskussionerna här och [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] även diskussionerna här och [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Loehle</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/05/25/is-this-a-nursery-story/#comment-279019</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig Loehle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 17:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am not the president of the Royal Society nor giving a newspaper interview.  My impression is based on the data presented at CA I believe regarding an FOIA request (which was granted) for dispositions of FOIA requests at UEA--almost all were denied, even the easy ones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not the president of the Royal Society nor giving a newspaper interview.  My impression is based on the data presented at CA I believe regarding an FOIA request (which was granted) for dispositions of FOIA requests at UEA&#8211;almost all were denied, even the easy ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Alberts</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/05/25/is-this-a-nursery-story/#comment-278944</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Alberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 14:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds more like a bit of &quot;I can do science me!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds more like a bit of &#8220;I can do science me!&#8221;</p>
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