Comments on: The Vergano FOI Request http://climateaudit.org/2011/05/28/the-vergano-foi-request/ by Steve McIntyre Sat, 18 May 2013 17:16:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Rob http://climateaudit.org/2011/05/28/the-vergano-foi-request/#comment-290784 Sun, 19 Jun 2011 07:14:47 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=13669#comment-290784 Punkstra said Yes I do follow your argument, but do you have no friends at all in Virginia?

No. Do you ?

why do you resist asking GMU

It’s not that I resist asking GMU. Since ATI was so explicit and open about their FOIA request to UVA, I would have thought that they would be equally explicit and open about their FOIA request to GMU. Apparently I was mistaken.

]]> By: Jeff Alberts http://climateaudit.org/2011/05/28/the-vergano-foi-request/#comment-290433 Sat, 18 Jun 2011 16:34:02 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=13669#comment-290433 It’s the system, no Steve. Happens to me all the time.

]]> By: Punksta http://climateaudit.org/2011/05/28/the-vergano-foi-request/#comment-290273 Sat, 18 Jun 2011 10:19:32 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=13669#comment-290273

The above information was obtained by ATI through their own recent FOI request to George Mason

And as regards the existence or not of an FOI request and prompt response, where else might the correspondence cited have come from ?

Yes an answer from ATI would help, but why do you resist asking GMU? They are the ones on tax dollar after all, CA and ATI are privately funded I assume. Do you disapprove of this whole FOI idea of ordinary citizens auditing the political classes ?

]]> By: Punksta http://climateaudit.org/2011/05/28/the-vergano-foi-request/#comment-290263 Sat, 18 Jun 2011 09:55:30 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=13669#comment-290263 Yes I do follow your argument, but do you have no friends at all in Virginia?

]]> By: Rob http://climateaudit.org/2011/05/28/the-vergano-foi-request/#comment-290238 Sat, 18 Jun 2011 08:32:02 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=13669#comment-290238

So once again, question for Dr.Schare (ATI), and for Steve : Was there a FOI request from ATI to GMU, and a timely response from GMU, or not ?

Why not put in a FOI request to GMU on this?

That’s funny Punkstra :o )
Of course, you have to be a Virginia resident for FOIA requests to be granted.
It would be so much easier if Dr.Schnare or Steve would simply provide some evidence that the GMU FOIA request actually happened. Because if it did not, then this post by Steve, and Dr.Schnare’s own statements like “Wegman is one for which we have requested his work. GMU gave it to us in an extremely timely manner” would be fabricated and thus misleading CA audience, and that is nicely worded.

]]> By: Punksta http://climateaudit.org/2011/05/28/the-vergano-foi-request/#comment-289618 Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:35:42 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=13669#comment-289618

So once again, question for Dr.Schare (ATI), and for Steve : Was there a FOI request from ATI to GMU, and a timely response from GMU, or not ?

Why not put in a FOI request to GMU on this?

]]> By: Rob http://climateaudit.org/2011/05/28/the-vergano-foi-request/#comment-289602 Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:08:03 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=13669#comment-289602 Steve, is there a particular reason why you are positioning my June 17 post before a June 4 post ?

]]> By: Rob http://climateaudit.org/2011/05/28/the-vergano-foi-request/#comment-289599 Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:05:19 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=13669#comment-289599 Steve said :
“The above information was obtained by ATI through their own recent FOI request to George Mason”

Normally, Steve is very open and sharing FOIA requests and the information obtained therein, but in this case, neither ATI nor Steve, nor anyone else here seems to be able to produce that FOIA request from ATI.

So once again, question for Dr.Schare (ATI), and for Steve : Was there a FOI request from ATI to GMU, and a timely response from GMU, or not ? And if there was one, where is it, and when was the requested information delivered ?

By not presenting this request, and GMU’s response, neither here nor on ATI’s web site, you create the appearance that this entire story is made up just to create the appearance that there is a difference between academic institutions in Virginia in dealing with FOIA requests under Virginia law.

]]> By: Rob http://climateaudit.org/2011/05/28/the-vergano-foi-request/#comment-289598 Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:04:19 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=13669#comment-289598 Steve said :
“The above information was obtained by ATI through their own recent FOI request to George Mason”

Normally, Steve is very open and sharing FOIA requests and the information obtained therein, but in this case, neither ATI nor Steve, nor anyone else here seems to be able to produce that FOIA request from ATI.

So once again, question for Dr.Schare (ATI), and for Steve : Was there a FOI request from ATI to GMU, and a timely response from GMU, or not ? And if there was one, where is it, and when was the requested information delivered ?

By not presenting this request, and GMU’s response, neither here nor on ATI’s web site, you create the appearance that this entire story is made up just to create the appearance that there is a difference between academic institutions in Virginia in dealing with FOIA requests under Virginia law.

]]> By: thefordprefect http://climateaudit.org/2011/05/28/the-vergano-foi-request/#comment-287023 Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:43:26 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=13669#comment-287023 Since my post has gone into moderation from where most do not emerge. I have posted most of the relevent correspondence between schnare and uva under my name link.
But basically it shows UVA warning that the request is not correctly formatted and includes too much to sensibly give under FOI. It shows that UVA requested $8k to provide JUST the info from the backup server.
It shows Schnare only willing to pay in blocks of $2K.

The hold ups are through Schnare not being willing to fund the investigation, Schnare “misunderstanding” UVA responses.
The last message 6th April from UVA suggests that 1k out of 8k emails are just about ready for delivery.
The last message from Schnare 7th April says he is going to overnight the next installment.

UVA never say they will not provide the information requested.

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