Comments on: Built Like an “Outhouse” http://climateaudit.org/2011/06/08/built-like-an-outhouse/ by Steve McIntyre Wed, 19 Jun 2013 01:39:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Paul_in_CT http://climateaudit.org/2011/06/08/built-like-an-outhouse/#comment-293698 Fri, 24 Jun 2011 07:59:01 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=13807#comment-293698 Funniest post ever, many thanks!

]]> By: Richard Drake http://climateaudit.org/2011/06/08/built-like-an-outhouse/#comment-285346 Thu, 09 Jun 2011 16:41:56 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=13807#comment-285346 Showing that these guys really ‘believe it’, where ‘it’ is hard to specify exactly but sure is catastrophic. Whatever shortcuts (at worst, deceptions) are uncovered in the science this must be kept in mind. It’s not a scam in the most facile sense. Noble cause corruption some call it, though I’ve never gone that far. Jeff’s two-level outhouse has become my model.

]]> By: Richard Drake http://climateaudit.org/2011/06/08/built-like-an-outhouse/#comment-285343 Thu, 09 Jun 2011 16:32:19 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=13807#comment-285343 Tim, thanks for that. It’s time we had a bit more Tolstoy around here. The epic quality, but with a fox’s grasp of the detail (if you follow Berlin in seeing the novelist as a fox who longed to be a hedgehog). We need both of those. As for our host, it’s like a cross between Leo Nikolayevich and Perelman. Hilarious.

]]> By: Kenneth Fritsch http://climateaudit.org/2011/06/08/built-like-an-outhouse/#comment-285338 Thu, 09 Jun 2011 16:15:53 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=13807#comment-285338 From the Bradley interview linked above it is rather obvious that Bradley is and has been very much the advocate/scientist. That he plays the politics well is evident in his attempt to portray the scientist/advocate as a victim and state that scientists must now become advocates for the cause. In other words, these scientists have been quietly going about their businesses, and have been pulled into the debate unwillingly – and apparently forced Bradley to write a book about it.

Washington politicians can indeed be pompous and overbearing in their hearings, but I think all that does is allow scientists like Bradley to avoid discussing the details of the evidence and change the subject to their being victims. Why would a scientist refer to a works of theirs as being robust like a brick outhouse? That is a metaphor expected of a politician with no content.

]]> By: David Anderson http://climateaudit.org/2011/06/08/built-like-an-outhouse/#comment-285237 Thu, 09 Jun 2011 10:46:09 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=13807#comment-285237 I would have compared the Hockey Stick to a stool you might find in an outhouse, given its propensity to bend in compliance with more recent reconstructions…

http://i55.tinypic.com/2rm2gdw.jpg

]]> By: monty http://climateaudit.org/2011/06/08/built-like-an-outhouse/#comment-285224 Thu, 09 Jun 2011 10:19:56 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=13807#comment-285224 Odd that ‘hockey sticks’ turn up in lots of other proxies which aren’t associated with tree rings (glacier length records, ocean floor foram records, permafrost temperatures, borehole records, ammonium concentrations from tropical ice cores, sediment fluxes to valley bottoms). Maybe they exist after all?

]]> By: Paul http://climateaudit.org/2011/06/08/built-like-an-outhouse/#comment-285186 Thu, 09 Jun 2011 08:46:21 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=13807#comment-285186 Article describing the hike is

]]> By: Jimmy Haigh http://climateaudit.org/2011/06/08/built-like-an-outhouse/#comment-285165 Thu, 09 Jun 2011 08:02:24 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=13807#comment-285165 Worked it out with a hockey stick.

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]]> By: Geoff Sherrington http://climateaudit.org/2011/06/08/built-like-an-outhouse/#comment-285107 Thu, 09 Jun 2011 04:47:38 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=13807#comment-285107 Mountains in Australia do not rise higher than 7,310 feet, so we use gravitational priciples and send it downwards in the famous “long drop”. There have been several photographic and descriptive books on the Australian Dunny, with the earliest, I think, being:
Dunnies, dykes and longdrops / Douglass Baglin, Yvonne Austin
Book Bib ID 1332676 Format Book, Online – Google Books
Author Baglin, Douglass, 1926- Edition 1st ed. Description Auckland, N.Z. : Beckett-Sterling ; Brookvale, N.S.W. : Child & Henry Publishing, 1984. 55 p. : ill. (some col.) ; 24 cm. ISBN 0908676107 Subjects Outhouses – Pictorial works.

Feom Wikipedia, we have this 1960s photo. pre-sewerage, of lines of dunnies in Brisbane, showing how thorough we were in replicating experiments. Wiki also gives the origin of “dunny”, “thunderbox”, “long drop”, “dyke”, “crapper”, “bog” and other synonyms.

http://www.geoffstuff.com/Dunnies.jpg

Once again, the NH and the SH might have to be treated as discrete cases (of crap).

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