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		<title>By: 21 September 2011 - NEW RESUME PORTAL &#8211; NEW RESUME PORTAL</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/09/16/more-hypocrisy-from-the-team/#comment-305699</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[21 September 2011 - NEW RESUME PORTAL &#8211; NEW RESUME PORTAL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 12:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] about both has also been discerning on a internet (eg, during Climate Audit &#8211; here and here), though no resignations are approaching from a issues [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] about both has also been discerning on a internet (eg, during Climate Audit &#8211; here and here), though no resignations are approaching from a issues [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 21 September 2011 &#124; &#124; RESUME DOCUMENTRESUME DOCUMENT</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/09/16/more-hypocrisy-from-the-team/#comment-305434</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[21 September 2011 &#124; &#124; RESUME DOCUMENTRESUME DOCUMENT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] about both has also been discerning on a internet (eg, during Climate Audit &#8211; here and here), though no resignations are approaching from a issues [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] about both has also been discerning on a internet (eg, during Climate Audit &#8211; here and here), though no resignations are approaching from a issues [...]</p>
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		<title>By: EdeF</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/09/16/more-hypocrisy-from-the-team/#comment-304350</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 21:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is an example of what happens when you spend too much time in Oak Ridge, Tenn.

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&amp;source=hp&amp;q=oak+ridge+boys+picture&amp;oq=oak+ridge+boys+picture&amp;aq=f&amp;aqi=g1g-v3&amp;aql=&amp;gs_sm=e&amp;gs_upl=1734l8202l0l8951l22l21l0l10l10l0l406l2591l0.3.7.0.1l11l0&amp;oi=image_result_group&amp;sa=X]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an example of what happens when you spend too much time in Oak Ridge, Tenn.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&#038;source=hp&#038;q=oak+ridge+boys+picture&#038;oq=oak+ridge+boys+picture&#038;aq=f&#038;aqi=g1g-v3&#038;aql=&#038;gs_sm=e&#038;gs_upl=1734l8202l0l8951l22l21l0l10l10l0l406l2591l0.3.7.0.1l11l0&#038;oi=image_result_group&#038;sa=X" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&#038;source=hp&#038;q=oak+ridge+boys+picture&#038;oq=oak+ridge+boys+picture&#038;aq=f&#038;aqi=g1g-v3&#038;aql=&#038;gs_sm=e&#038;gs_upl=1734l8202l0l8951l22l21l0l10l10l0l406l2591l0.3.7.0.1l11l0&#038;oi=image_result_group&#038;sa=X</a></p>
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		<title>By: Trenberth's game of Whack-a-Mole aint over yet - US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/09/16/more-hypocrisy-from-the-team/#comment-304212</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trenberth's game of Whack-a-Mole aint over yet - US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 23:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Norm K</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/09/16/more-hypocrisy-from-the-team/#comment-304189</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norm K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hansen et al 1988 &quot;Global Climate Changes as Forcast by Goddard Institute for Space Studies Three-Dimensional Model&quot; was submitted for publication to the Journal of Geophysical Research on January 25, 1988, was revised on May 6, 1988 and was accepted for publication on May 6, 1988. Does the zero days between revision and acceptance mean that this was not actually peer reviewed?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hansen et al 1988 &#8220;Global Climate Changes as Forcast by Goddard Institute for Space Studies Three-Dimensional Model&#8221; was submitted for publication to the Journal of Geophysical Research on January 25, 1988, was revised on May 6, 1988 and was accepted for publication on May 6, 1988. Does the zero days between revision and acceptance mean that this was not actually peer reviewed?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Drake</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/09/16/more-hypocrisy-from-the-team/#comment-304059</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Drake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 06:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep, old Alvin&#039;s been a problem throughout this thread, reputed to be playing a mean game of tennis at 91 in my earliest investigations. But a chance to express gratitude (and to Tim Ball) for your first-hand perspective on Oak Ridge. Every authentic voice being vital when so much smoke has been blown.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, old Alvin&#8217;s been a problem throughout this thread, reputed to be playing a mean game of tennis at 91 in my earliest investigations. But a chance to express gratitude (and to Tim Ball) for your first-hand perspective on Oak Ridge. Every authentic voice being vital when so much smoke has been blown.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Sherrington</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/09/16/more-hypocrisy-from-the-team/#comment-303965</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoff Sherrington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course, that typo should be Dr Alvin M Weinberg.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, that typo should be Dr Alvin M Weinberg.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Andrews</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Andrews]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Off topic, but the use of &#039;interns&#039; just sucks and it is sad that apublic body resorts to such measures.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic, but the use of &#8216;interns&#8217; just sucks and it is sad that apublic body resorts to such measures.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Drake</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/09/16/more-hypocrisy-from-the-team/#comment-303742</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Drake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 08:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Er, for latter read former. For heat read CO2. But I&#039;m sure you get the idea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er, for latter read former. For heat read CO2. But I&#8217;m sure you get the idea.</p>
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		<title>By: HAS</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/09/16/more-hypocrisy-from-the-team/#comment-303741</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HAS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 07:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As an afterthought I should add that because MRI CGCM 2.3.2A doesn&#039;t even get the frequency of ENSO correct and yet it does represent the observed lagged relationships between fluxes and temperature anomalies better than other GCMs this is a counter-factual to the hypothesis that what is being modeled here is an artifact of ENSO processes.  It is an artifact of GCMs implementations.  Some do this well, and most don&#039;t and this isn&#039;t closely related to ability to do ENSO.  

Probably need to look back down the pedigree of the models to find out where the mongrel came from.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an afterthought I should add that because MRI CGCM 2.3.2A doesn&#8217;t even get the frequency of ENSO correct and yet it does represent the observed lagged relationships between fluxes and temperature anomalies better than other GCMs this is a counter-factual to the hypothesis that what is being modeled here is an artifact of ENSO processes.  It is an artifact of GCMs implementations.  Some do this well, and most don&#8217;t and this isn&#8217;t closely related to ability to do ENSO.  </p>
<p>Probably need to look back down the pedigree of the models to find out where the mongrel came from.</p>
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