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		<title>By: Climategate Continued &#171; the Air Vent</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/12/16/the-tallbloke-search-warrant/#comment-340871</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Climategate Continued &#171; the Air Vent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 21:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The search warrant issued for confiscation of Tallbloke&#8217;s computer&#8217;s is available at CA.         Rate this:Like this:LikeOne blogger likes [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The search warrant issued for confiscation of Tallbloke&#8217;s computer&#8217;s is available at CA.         Rate this:Like this:LikeOne blogger likes [...]</p>
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		<title>By: German Veteran Journalist Maxeiner On Norfolk Police / DOJ Moves: &#8220;Something You&#8217;d Expect Against Chinese Dissdents&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/12/16/the-tallbloke-search-warrant/#comment-318607</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[German Veteran Journalist Maxeiner On Norfolk Police / DOJ Moves: &#8220;Something You&#8217;d Expect Against Chinese Dissdents&#8221;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 12:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] See here: http://wattsupwiththat.com/ http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news Washington Examiner Guardian http://joannenova http://climateaudit [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] See here: <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/" rel="nofollow">http://wattsupwiththat.com/</a> <a href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news</a> Washington Examiner Guardian <a href="http://joannenova" rel="nofollow">http://joannenova</a> <a href="http://climateaudit" rel="nofollow">http://climateaudit</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: When the Police Knock on Your Door &#171; NoFrakkingConsensus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[When the Police Knock on Your Door &#171; NoFrakkingConsensus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 18:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] special police attention. Last week six officers, from three different divisions and armed with a search warrant, raided his Yorkshire home. They spent more than three hours there and although they assured him he [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] special police attention. Last week six officers, from three different divisions and armed with a search warrant, raided his Yorkshire home. They spent more than three hours there and although they assured him he [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dotor K</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/12/16/the-tallbloke-search-warrant/#comment-317692</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dotor K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve.

About time you added Tallbloke&#039;s Talkshop to your blog roll no?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve.</p>
<p>About time you added Tallbloke&#8217;s Talkshop to your blog roll no?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark T</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/12/16/the-tallbloke-search-warrant/#comment-317387</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 13:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think in the US such a thing would be covered by a material witness warrant, but such a warrant makes it clear that you are considered a material witness.  Some leagal eagles may wish to correct me if I&#039;m wrong.

Mark]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think in the US such a thing would be covered by a material witness warrant, but such a warrant makes it clear that you are considered a material witness.  Some leagal eagles may wish to correct me if I&#8217;m wrong.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: j ferguson</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/12/16/the-tallbloke-search-warrant/#comment-317377</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RoyUK,
If the warrant is for evidence gathering for an offence of which TallBloke is not suspected and let&#039;s say &quot;could not be connected.&quot; then how much detail is needed on the description of the offense?  Suppose it is an Official Secrets Act enquiry?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RoyUK,<br />
If the warrant is for evidence gathering for an offence of which TallBloke is not suspected and let&#8217;s say &#8220;could not be connected.&#8221; then how much detail is needed on the description of the offense?  Suppose it is an Official Secrets Act enquiry?</p>
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		<title>By: Red Etin</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/12/16/the-tallbloke-search-warrant/#comment-317372</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Red Etin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 11:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Roy UK, 
Presumably the Warrant as shown is &quot;incomplete&quot; without the attached schedule, which is referred to in the Warrant, though only referring to &quot;premises described in the attached schedule&quot;. There are presumably reasons why TB has chosen not to share the schedule details.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy UK,<br />
Presumably the Warrant as shown is &#8220;incomplete&#8221; without the attached schedule, which is referred to in the Warrant, though only referring to &#8220;premises described in the attached schedule&#8221;. There are presumably reasons why TB has chosen not to share the schedule details.</p>
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		<title>By: hro001</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/12/16/the-tallbloke-search-warrant/#comment-317343</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hro001]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;However, UK authorities may have wanted a clear indication of which parts of the information on the UEA back-up server are now in the public domain. [...]&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But surely if this were the case, all they needed to do was follow any of the many links available on various sites from which CG2 could be downloaded?

I suppose there is the possibility that whoever uploaded that which they&#039;d downloaded from the original link to the server &lt;em&gt;could&lt;/em&gt; have removed (or inserted!) some files.  But this strikes me as being highly unlikely (and counterproductive).

In any event, one still has to wonder why the seizure required six police officers.  And at this point, one also has to wonder how long does it take to &quot;clone&quot; two hard-drives?! Ergo, why has Tallbloke&#039;s property not been returned to him?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>However, UK authorities may have wanted a clear indication of which parts of the information on the UEA back-up server are now in the public domain. [...]</p></blockquote>
<p>But surely if this were the case, all they needed to do was follow any of the many links available on various sites from which CG2 could be downloaded?</p>
<p>I suppose there is the possibility that whoever uploaded that which they&#8217;d downloaded from the original link to the server <em>could</em> have removed (or inserted!) some files.  But this strikes me as being highly unlikely (and counterproductive).</p>
<p>In any event, one still has to wonder why the seizure required six police officers.  And at this point, one also has to wonder how long does it take to &#8220;clone&#8221; two hard-drives?! Ergo, why has Tallbloke&#8217;s property not been returned to him?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard S Courtney</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2011/12/16/the-tallbloke-search-warrant/#comment-317237</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard S Courtney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 17:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paul:

My reply to you has appeared in the wrong place (i.e. a little above here).

I hope this is in the right place.

Richard]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul:</p>
<p>My reply to you has appeared in the wrong place (i.e. a little above here).</p>
<p>I hope this is in the right place.</p>
<p>Richard</p>
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		<title>By: Richard S Courtney</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard S Courtney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 17:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paul:

You say;
“They are looking for evidence of the identity of FOIA.”

Really?  I wonder how you know that because the Search Warrant (see above) does not say that.

Personally, I think the most likely reason is to determine = with minimum effort and maximum accuracy  - what is already in the public domain and what is probably in the encrypted file.

As I said above in response to Geoff Sherrington asking:
 
“One wonders if the police know what they are seeking. Do they have a copy of Climategate 1, and/or 2, and/or 3? If they do, did they obtain their copies lawfully?”
 
I answered:

“One can reasonably assume the police have all that information because it would be on the UEA back-up server which the police must have examined as part of their previous investigation that indicated UEA had breached FOI legislation (UEA could not be prosecuted for this because of the length of time since the breach).
 
However, UK authorities may have wanted a clear indication of which parts of the information on the UEA back-up server are now in the public domain. And Tallbloke’s computers contain a clear, collated compilation of that information which is already in the public domain.”

Richard]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul:</p>
<p>You say;<br />
“They are looking for evidence of the identity of FOIA.”</p>
<p>Really?  I wonder how you know that because the Search Warrant (see above) does not say that.</p>
<p>Personally, I think the most likely reason is to determine = with minimum effort and maximum accuracy  &#8211; what is already in the public domain and what is probably in the encrypted file.</p>
<p>As I said above in response to Geoff Sherrington asking:</p>
<p>“One wonders if the police know what they are seeking. Do they have a copy of Climategate 1, and/or 2, and/or 3? If they do, did they obtain their copies lawfully?”</p>
<p>I answered:</p>
<p>“One can reasonably assume the police have all that information because it would be on the UEA back-up server which the police must have examined as part of their previous investigation that indicated UEA had breached FOI legislation (UEA could not be prosecuted for this because of the length of time since the breach).</p>
<p>However, UK authorities may have wanted a clear indication of which parts of the information on the UEA back-up server are now in the public domain. And Tallbloke’s computers contain a clear, collated compilation of that information which is already in the public domain.”</p>
<p>Richard</p>
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