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	<title>Comments on: Toronto 1912</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff Norman</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/01/05/toronto-1912/#comment-322476</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Norman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just finished reading &quot;Smiley&#039;s People&quot; again.  At one point Smiley is at home lighting a fire in the grate using &quot;smokeless&quot; coal.  Later he is on his hands and knees blowing on the fire to keep it going because the coal is mostly slag.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished reading &#8220;Smiley&#8217;s People&#8221; again.  At one point Smiley is at home lighting a fire in the grate using &#8220;smokeless&#8221; coal.  Later he is on his hands and knees blowing on the fire to keep it going because the coal is mostly slag.</p>
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		<title>By: JCM</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/01/05/toronto-1912/#comment-322422</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JCM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 00:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is link to a John Grierson documentary from Britain in 1937 - &quot;The  Smoke Menace&quot; when he was leading the Realist Film Unit and prior to him leaving &#039;The Big Smoke&#039;, London,  for the fresher air of Canada to head the NFB.

http://www.screenonline.org.uk/audio/id/877883/index.html

Partial synopsis - &#039;Window cleaners, chimney sweeps, laundry workers and building restorers struggle to combat soot, but their battle is never-ending. Buildings are not only discoloured, but permanently damaged by the 75,000 tons of soot that falls annually on London, causing £60-80 million of damage. Children deprived of sunlight as a result of the smoke haze suffer deficiencies in Vitamin D, making them prone to rickets. Young patients are shown undergoing ultra-violet treatment at the Middlesex Hospital Sunray Clinic. High smoke levels also increases the risk of asthma, bronchitis and other respiratory diseases, and the death toll doubles during the winter in some Northern cities. It also creates hazardous conditions for air, road and rail transport. A bi-plane takes off in fog and a bus crawls along a London street due to low visibility&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is link to a John Grierson documentary from Britain in 1937 &#8211; &#8220;The  Smoke Menace&#8221; when he was leading the Realist Film Unit and prior to him leaving &#8216;The Big Smoke&#8217;, London,  for the fresher air of Canada to head the NFB.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.screenonline.org.uk/audio/id/877883/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.screenonline.org.uk/audio/id/877883/index.html</a></p>
<p>Partial synopsis &#8211; &#8216;Window cleaners, chimney sweeps, laundry workers and building restorers struggle to combat soot, but their battle is never-ending. Buildings are not only discoloured, but permanently damaged by the 75,000 tons of soot that falls annually on London, causing £60-80 million of damage. Children deprived of sunlight as a result of the smoke haze suffer deficiencies in Vitamin D, making them prone to rickets. Young patients are shown undergoing ultra-violet treatment at the Middlesex Hospital Sunray Clinic. High smoke levels also increases the risk of asthma, bronchitis and other respiratory diseases, and the death toll doubles during the winter in some Northern cities. It also creates hazardous conditions for air, road and rail transport. A bi-plane takes off in fog and a bus crawls along a London street due to low visibility&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Harvey</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/01/05/toronto-1912/#comment-322292</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexander Harvey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 16:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: Jeff Norman

&quot;BTW, in some circles Toronto is known as “The Big Smoke”.&quot;

London was simply &quot;The Smoke&quot; mostly in the view of Northerners.

It may be of interest that the &quot;Clean Air Act 1956&quot; was not universally popular.

For many it meant a change in domestic fuel from coal to coke which given the typical small domestic grates meant a change from warmish to not very warm at all. The replacement fuel simply didn&#039;t burn well in small grates. Many houses only had a single grate and no other heating except from cooking.

As you might imagine this was in fact a rich/poor thing (cue violins).

Many of the people saw little benefit, an West End/East End thing and much grumbling there was in the ranks.

Something similar is happening again but also quite different. The scourge of fuel poverty. This has a formal definition that means it accounts for ~20% to ~25% of all UK households. A more telling but more unfathomable figure is the number of households inadequately heated. By this I mean that fuel poverty is judged as the need to spend greater than a certain proportion of houshold income on energy which is not the same thing as the number of households that lack adequate heating.

I sometimes wonder just how many of those that support measures to increase energy costs have ever over-wintered in unheated or barely heated accommodation.

Increasingly the popular numbers are against them. It would be a pity for the UK Climate Change Act 2008 to go up in smoke because those that can afford to stomach higher costs and advocate higher prices were too busy sorting out their applications for reaping their solar subsidies to notice the growing numbers of poor who are, through lack of an alternative, already more green than they.

Alex]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Jeff Norman</p>
<p>&#8220;BTW, in some circles Toronto is known as “The Big Smoke”.&#8221;</p>
<p>London was simply &#8220;The Smoke&#8221; mostly in the view of Northerners.</p>
<p>It may be of interest that the &#8220;Clean Air Act 1956&#8243; was not universally popular.</p>
<p>For many it meant a change in domestic fuel from coal to coke which given the typical small domestic grates meant a change from warmish to not very warm at all. The replacement fuel simply didn&#8217;t burn well in small grates. Many houses only had a single grate and no other heating except from cooking.</p>
<p>As you might imagine this was in fact a rich/poor thing (cue violins).</p>
<p>Many of the people saw little benefit, an West End/East End thing and much grumbling there was in the ranks.</p>
<p>Something similar is happening again but also quite different. The scourge of fuel poverty. This has a formal definition that means it accounts for ~20% to ~25% of all UK households. A more telling but more unfathomable figure is the number of households inadequately heated. By this I mean that fuel poverty is judged as the need to spend greater than a certain proportion of houshold income on energy which is not the same thing as the number of households that lack adequate heating.</p>
<p>I sometimes wonder just how many of those that support measures to increase energy costs have ever over-wintered in unheated or barely heated accommodation.</p>
<p>Increasingly the popular numbers are against them. It would be a pity for the UK Climate Change Act 2008 to go up in smoke because those that can afford to stomach higher costs and advocate higher prices were too busy sorting out their applications for reaping their solar subsidies to notice the growing numbers of poor who are, through lack of an alternative, already more green than they.</p>
<p>Alex</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/01/05/toronto-1912/#comment-321740</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 20:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HADCET has winters in 1911 to 1916 pretty warm compared to last 3.

1910        4.2
1911        5.0
1912        5.1
1913        5.3
1914        5.2
1915        4.3
1916        5.5


2009        3.5
2010        2.4
2011        3.1

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/ssn_HadCET_mean.txt]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HADCET has winters in 1911 to 1916 pretty warm compared to last 3.</p>
<p>1910        4.2<br />
1911        5.0<br />
1912        5.1<br />
1913        5.3<br />
1914        5.2<br />
1915        4.3<br />
1916        5.5</p>
<p>2009        3.5<br />
2010        2.4<br />
2011        3.1</p>
<p><a href="http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/ssn_HadCET_mean.txt" rel="nofollow">http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/ssn_HadCET_mean.txt</a></p>
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		<title>By: Luboš Motl</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/01/05/toronto-1912/#comment-321722</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luboš Motl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 17:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you want to see the unusually warm winter that another ice-hockey superpower experienced 100 years ago, in January 1912, I mean the Czech lands, see the Centennial Courier here:

http://motls.blogspot.com/2012/01/warm-winter-1911-1912.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to see the unusually warm winter that another ice-hockey superpower experienced 100 years ago, in January 1912, I mean the Czech lands, see the Centennial Courier here:</p>
<p><a href="http://motls.blogspot.com/2012/01/warm-winter-1911-1912.html" rel="nofollow">http://motls.blogspot.com/2012/01/warm-winter-1911-1912.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: EdeF</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/01/05/toronto-1912/#comment-321646</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EdeF]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 04:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[About 4 chords of wood per winter per house in the Sierras in the 1960s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About 4 chords of wood per winter per house in the Sierras in the 1960s.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Norman</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/01/05/toronto-1912/#comment-321643</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Norman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 04:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Bruce.  Those are ultra cool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bruce.  Those are ultra cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/01/05/toronto-1912/#comment-321613</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 22:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More.

Use Aerial View as keywords and check scanned photographs
https://gencat4.eloquent-systems.com/webcat/request/DoMenuRequest?SystemName=City+of+Toronto+Archives&amp;UserName=wa+public&amp;Password=&amp;TemplateProcessID=6000_1580_11104&amp;bCachable=1&amp;MenuName=City+of+Toronto+Archives&amp;eloquentref=toronto]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More.</p>
<p>Use Aerial View as keywords and check scanned photographs<br />
<a href="https://gencat4.eloquent-systems.com/webcat/request/DoMenuRequest?SystemName=City+of+Toronto+Archives&#038;UserName=wa+public&#038;Password=&#038;TemplateProcessID=6000_1580_11104&#038;bCachable=1&#038;MenuName=City+of+Toronto+Archives&#038;eloquentref=toronto" rel="nofollow">https://gencat4.eloquent-systems.com/webcat/request/DoMenuRequest?SystemName=City+of+Toronto+Archives&#038;UserName=wa+public&#038;Password=&#038;TemplateProcessID=6000_1580_11104&#038;bCachable=1&#038;MenuName=City+of+Toronto+Archives&#038;eloquentref=toronto</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/01/05/toronto-1912/#comment-321610</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 22:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aerial view of Toronto downtown, smoke and haze 1936

&lt;img src=&quot;https://gencat4.eloquent-systems.com/webcat/systems/toronto.arch/resource/ser372/ss0100/s0372_ss0100_it0768.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aerial view of Toronto downtown, smoke and haze 1936</p>
<p><img src="https://gencat4.eloquent-systems.com/webcat/systems/toronto.arch/resource/ser372/ss0100/s0372_ss0100_it0768.jpg" alt="" /></p>
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		<title>By: climate stalker</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/01/05/toronto-1912/#comment-321593</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[climate stalker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 17:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doh!  I had seen this picture else where claiming that it was 1850, so when I found it again, I didn&#039;t read the fine print.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doh!  I had seen this picture else where claiming that it was 1850, so when I found it again, I didn&#8217;t read the fine print.</p>
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