Comments on: Checking In

By: Paul Matthews

Paul Matthews — Thu, 03 May 2012 18:43:01 +0000

McIntyre watchers might be interested to note that Steve recently put in an appearance at Bishop Hill (endorsing a remark by James Delingpole).

By: Paul Matthews

Paul Matthews — Thu, 03 May 2012 18:41:25 +0000

“perhaps they could study his scientific publications”

This is brilliant, and really deserves a prize. Does Mike Roddy have any idea what this blog has been doing for nearly 10 years?

By: SteveSadlov

SteveSadlov — Thu, 03 May 2012 03:50:10 +0000

As the Green hardcore element love to state, nature bats last. And when she does, the simplistic views foisted upon the gullible by those who put “Deep Ecology” in front of all other goals, will be smashed to bits. It is a highly complex machine. It does not suffer fools. Yes, climate change is inevitable. In both directions. What I write is not based on personal beliefs it is based on 8000 years of recorded human history and countless eons of geological and cosmic history.

By: MrPete

MrPete — Wed, 02 May 2012 17:11:28 +0000

Re: Mike Roddy (May 2 08:38), Put simply, the problem with Mann's publications, and the occasional awards he receives, is that they are so poorly vetted. Science is not a democracy; popularity has nothing to do with it. One disproof is all it takes to make a particular paper fall apart. Steve McIntyre has provided more than enough vetting along those lines... whether Mike Roddy and all the rest like it or not.

By: johanna

johanna — Wed, 02 May 2012 15:16:01 +0000

Mike Roddy, if your post is more than a drive-by, please be specific. And no, a truckload of citations of Mann (aka spam) doesn’t cut it. What exactly is your point? And, is it something that has not been endlessly rehashed elsewhere?

If you have nothing new to say, then I hope that your feeble attempt to derail the discussion is treated accordingly.

By: mrmethane

mrmethane — Wed, 02 May 2012 14:27:41 +0000

Oops, you don’t want to ask that question here, Mike; it’s a big mirror.

By: Kenneth Fritsch

Kenneth Fritsch — Wed, 02 May 2012 14:23:38 +0000

Mike Roddy, I have no awareness of your knowledge of Mann’s work, but you could begin by giving us a quick synopsis of Mann (2008): the strengths and weaknesses.

By: Mike Roddy

Mike Roddy — Wed, 02 May 2012 13:38:13 +0000

Michael Mann, unlike Wegman, Watts, and yourself, actually knows something about climate science, and how our atmosphere functions. I recommend his book or, if people don’t like the attacks on deniers, perhaps they could study his scientific publications, for which he just won a major international science award.

Alternatively, there are a number of other books on the subject that could enlighten CA readers, if you have issues with Mann personally.

Who, over the years, is actually guilty of “ad hominem”?

By: johanna

johanna — Wed, 02 May 2012 10:02:52 +0000

Steve, as many comments above have indicated, your work is much appreciated on both a personal and professional level. It seems likely that you underestimate the effect it has had, but the ripples have been experienced well beyond this blog. Apart from that, any dodgy climatologist who learns that Steve McIntyre is about to run the ruler over their latest publication is very likely to know (and dread) what that means.

There have recently been discussions on other prominent climate sites about groupthink, integrity and communication. What sets you apart is that you are not interested in ‘spin’, but are very interested in accuracy and honesty.

Finally, as a veteran of the public sector, I repeat what I said a few months ago about getting into tar-baby type wars with the bureaucracy – they have a lot more resources than you, and will suck you dry. There are people with the resources and (dare I say) the temperament to do this stuff, but if you try to do it, it will send you broke and drive you nuts.

I hope that your tendons are tending. – J

By: Rick

Rick — Wed, 02 May 2012 05:26:05 +0000

Steve, words are hard to find to express the admiration and appreciation our family have for you, and the work you have done trying to add a bit of integrity to the AGW debate. Thank-you.
Mark McNeil above has supplied a quote from the Christopher Paolini books.(Eragon, Eldest, and Brisinger are the 3 I’ve read) Here’s a quote I like from the books:
“If you have to chose between giving a man a noble disposition or teaching him to think clearly, you’d do better to teach him to think clearly; too many problems in this world are caused by men with noble dispositions and clouded minds”