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		<title>By: Gras Albert</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/10/16/forensic-bioinformatics/#comment-366903</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gras Albert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Then completely out of left field came a decisive revelation from “The Cancer Letter”, a weekly newsletter that is sort of like a blog. In his CV, Dr Potti had falsely claimed to be a “Rhodes Scholar (Australia)” – a claim refuted at The Cancer Letter.

Although this misrepresentation did not bear on the dispute itself, it was the sort of thing that the academic community could dig its teeth into and Potti’s data manipulation began to unravel. Dr Nevens, Potti’s senior and coauthor at Duke, finally withdrew his support. The articles (published at the most eminent journals) were subsequently retracted.&lt;/i&gt;
 
On his web site
 
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/holocene/public_html/Mann/about/index.php&quot;&gt;
 
Michael Mann states he &lt;i&gt;shared the Nobel Peace Prize with other IPCC authors in 2007&lt;/i&gt; and his 
 
http://legaltimes.typepad.com/files/michael-mann-complaint.pdf
 
&#039;complaint&#039; filed October 22, 2012, against CEI &amp; Mark Steyn states &lt;i&gt;As a result of this research, Dr Mann and his colleagues were awarded the Nobel Peace Prize&lt;/i&gt;

It appears that no less an authority than Geir Lundestad, Director, Professor, The Norwegian Nobel Institute has responded

&lt;i&gt;1) Michael Mann has never been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
2) He did not receive any personal certificate. He has taken the diploma awarded in 2007 to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (and to Al Gore) and made his own text underneath this authentic-looking diploma.
3) The text underneath the diploma is entirely his own. We issued only the diploma to the IPCC as such. No individuals on the IPCC side received anything in 2007.

It would appear that the IPCC/Rajendra Pachauri took their Nobel diploma, added the supplementary text and sent a copy exclusively, to some 2,000 AR4 contributors...

Is this not &lt;i&gt;the sort of thing that the academic community could dig its teeth into&lt;/i&gt;?, it&#039;s certainly reminiscent of Mann&#039;s proxy practise]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Then completely out of left field came a decisive revelation from “The Cancer Letter”, a weekly newsletter that is sort of like a blog. In his CV, Dr Potti had falsely claimed to be a “Rhodes Scholar (Australia)” – a claim refuted at The Cancer Letter.</p>
<p>Although this misrepresentation did not bear on the dispute itself, it was the sort of thing that the academic community could dig its teeth into and Potti’s data manipulation began to unravel. Dr Nevens, Potti’s senior and coauthor at Duke, finally withdrew his support. The articles (published at the most eminent journals) were subsequently retracted.</i></p>
<p>On his web site</p>
<p><a href="http://www.meteo.psu.edu/holocene/public_html/Mann/about/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.meteo.psu.edu/holocene/public_html/Mann/about/index.php</a>&#8220;&gt;</p>
<p>Michael Mann states he <i>shared the Nobel Peace Prize with other IPCC authors in 2007</i> and his </p>
<p><a href="http://legaltimes.typepad.com/files/michael-mann-complaint.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://legaltimes.typepad.com/files/michael-mann-complaint.pdf</a></p>
<p>&#8216;complaint&#8217; filed October 22, 2012, against CEI &amp; Mark Steyn states <i>As a result of this research, Dr Mann and his colleagues were awarded the Nobel Peace Prize</i></p>
<p>It appears that no less an authority than Geir Lundestad, Director, Professor, The Norwegian Nobel Institute has responded</p>
<p><i>1) Michael Mann has never been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.<br />
2) He did not receive any personal certificate. He has taken the diploma awarded in 2007 to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (and to Al Gore) and made his own text underneath this authentic-looking diploma.<br />
3) The text underneath the diploma is entirely his own. We issued only the diploma to the IPCC as such. No individuals on the IPCC side received anything in 2007.</p>
<p>It would appear that the IPCC/Rajendra Pachauri took their Nobel diploma, added the supplementary text and sent a copy exclusively, to some 2,000 AR4 contributors&#8230;</p>
<p>Is this not </i><i>the sort of thing that the academic community could dig its teeth into</i>?, it&#8217;s certainly reminiscent of Mann&#8217;s proxy practise</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/10/16/forensic-bioinformatics/#comment-365839</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 13:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We appear to have arrived at the point where the athletics departments of major universities have more integrity than their academic counterparts.  This is indeed a bizarre twist for me as I have long viewed the emphasis on athletics (in the US this primarily means football) as a corrupting influence on the proper purpose of a University.

In a case like this it is Duke University which needs to be made accountable for the academic misconduct of its faculty member because they failed to properly supervise his activities and abetted his misconduct by conducting a sham investigation.

Sanctions should be imposed which impact the University&#039;s access to research funds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We appear to have arrived at the point where the athletics departments of major universities have more integrity than their academic counterparts.  This is indeed a bizarre twist for me as I have long viewed the emphasis on athletics (in the US this primarily means football) as a corrupting influence on the proper purpose of a University.</p>
<p>In a case like this it is Duke University which needs to be made accountable for the academic misconduct of its faculty member because they failed to properly supervise his activities and abetted his misconduct by conducting a sham investigation.</p>
<p>Sanctions should be imposed which impact the University&#8217;s access to research funds.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/10/16/forensic-bioinformatics/#comment-365383</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 05:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed</p>
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		<title>By: per</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/10/16/forensic-bioinformatics/#comment-365326</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[per]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 23:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the similarity drops off when baltimore and imanishi-kari were fully acquitted at appeal. see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thereza_Imanishi-Kari
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Baltimore
per]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the similarity drops off when baltimore and imanishi-kari were fully acquitted at appeal. see:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thereza_Imanishi-Kari" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thereza_Imanishi-Kari</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Baltimore" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Baltimore</a><br />
per</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly Climate and Energy News Roundup &#124; Watts Up With That?</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/10/16/forensic-bioinformatics/#comment-365316</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Weekly Climate and Energy News Roundup &#124; Watts Up With That?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Keith Sketchley</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/10/16/forensic-bioinformatics/#comment-365113</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keith Sketchley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 17:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps something will rub off from this objective ethics program at Duke U: 
http://www.vem.duke.edu/program.htm
though many academics and U bureaucrats will make a fallacious claim they are not in &quot;the marketplace&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps something will rub off from this objective ethics program at Duke U:<br />
<a href="http://www.vem.duke.edu/program.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.vem.duke.edu/program.htm</a><br />
though many academics and U bureaucrats will make a fallacious claim they are not in &#8220;the marketplace&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Sketchley</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/10/16/forensic-bioinformatics/#comment-365112</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keith Sketchley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 17:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting.
Perhaps too many people using easy funding to get a degree that isn&#039;t worth much for income because they aren&#039;t of top notch capability for the field of their degree.
Though when I graduated in 1967 I wondered how so many science graduates would find work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.<br />
Perhaps too many people using easy funding to get a degree that isn&#8217;t worth much for income because they aren&#8217;t of top notch capability for the field of their degree.<br />
Though when I graduated in 1967 I wondered how so many science graduates would find work.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/10/16/forensic-bioinformatics/#comment-364923</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 22:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here, here!  Here&#039;s to improving science!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here, here!  Here&#8217;s to improving science!</p>
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		<title>By: William Larson</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/10/16/forensic-bioinformatics/#comment-364890</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Larson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 18:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suppose that this is not entirely OT:  A friend of mine is a professor of biochemistry at an R1 university.  He has said to me that, &quot;back in the day&quot; (around 1970), when he graduated with an MD-PhD, there was &quot;no question&quot; that he would land a professorship at a major university, that he would achieve tenure, and that he would get research funding, but that none of those is true anymore for persons with the same degrees.  Apparently the supply of professors greatly exceeds the demand.  And so, therefore, the pressure to publish and BE RECOGNIZED must be intense.  Of course this could tend to lead to all kinds of behaviors that throw true science under the bus in the interest of self-advancement, both as authors and as reviewers.  So I think I understand it, but understanding does not equate with a vote of approval.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose that this is not entirely OT:  A friend of mine is a professor of biochemistry at an R1 university.  He has said to me that, &#8220;back in the day&#8221; (around 1970), when he graduated with an MD-PhD, there was &#8220;no question&#8221; that he would land a professorship at a major university, that he would achieve tenure, and that he would get research funding, but that none of those is true anymore for persons with the same degrees.  Apparently the supply of professors greatly exceeds the demand.  And so, therefore, the pressure to publish and BE RECOGNIZED must be intense.  Of course this could tend to lead to all kinds of behaviors that throw true science under the bus in the interest of self-advancement, both as authors and as reviewers.  So I think I understand it, but understanding does not equate with a vote of approval.</p>
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		<title>By: TG</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/10/16/forensic-bioinformatics/#comment-364884</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 18:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The concluding sentence reminded me of a paper by John P. A. Ioannidis &lt;b&gt;&quot;Why Most Published Research Findings Are False&quot;&lt;/b&gt; http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124 ).  I should add that the paper was previously mentioned on CA on a different thread, but it&#039;s worth re-reading...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The concluding sentence reminded me of a paper by John P. A. Ioannidis <b>&#8220;Why Most Published Research Findings Are False&#8221;</b> <a href="http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124" rel="nofollow">http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124</a> ).  I should add that the paper was previously mentioned on CA on a different thread, but it&#8217;s worth re-reading&#8230;</p>
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