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	<title>Comments on: Karoly and Gergis vs Journal of Climate</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Pachauri&#8217;s great expectations (July 2009) vs reality (June 2013) &#124; The View From Here</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/10/30/karoly-and-gergis-vs-journal-of-climate/#comment-423166</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pachauri&#8217;s great expectations (July 2009) vs reality (June 2013) &#124; The View From Here]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Australia&#8217;s Joelle Gergis (another in a long line of activist scientists) and her colleagues did their best to resurrect Michael Mann&#8217;s notorious hockey-stick. The madness in their methodology evidently failed them. [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Australia&#8217;s Joelle Gergis (another in a long line of activist scientists) and her colleagues did their best to resurrect Michael Mann&#8217;s notorious hockey-stick. The madness in their methodology evidently failed them. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Skiphil</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/10/30/karoly-and-gergis-vs-journal-of-climate/#comment-401348</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skiphil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 04:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t noticed this discussed anywhere.  Some interesting slides in this doc.... What seems to be a seminar presentation by Phipps says that there is a special Journal of Climate issue devoted to PAGES Aus2k, due to appear in 2013. 

According to document properties this was created on 09/27/12:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.climatescience.org.au/sites/default/files/phipps.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Phipps presentation, Sept. 2012&lt;/a&gt; 


References
• PAGES Aus2k special issue of Journal of Climate, due to appear in 2013.
• Gergis, Neukom, Gallant, Phipps, Karoly and PAGES Aus2k Project Members
(submitted), Evidence of unusual late 20th century warming from an Australasian
temperature reconstruction spanning the last millennium.
• Phipps, McGregor, Gergis, Gallant, Neukom, Stevenson, Ackerley, Brown, Fischer and
van Ommen (in revision), Paleoclimate data-model comparison and the role of climate
forcings over the past 1500 years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t noticed this discussed anywhere.  Some interesting slides in this doc&#8230;. What seems to be a seminar presentation by Phipps says that there is a special Journal of Climate issue devoted to PAGES Aus2k, due to appear in 2013. </p>
<p>According to document properties this was created on 09/27/12:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.climatescience.org.au/sites/default/files/phipps.pdf" rel="nofollow">Phipps presentation, Sept. 2012</a> </p>
<p>References<br />
• PAGES Aus2k special issue of Journal of Climate, due to appear in 2013.<br />
• Gergis, Neukom, Gallant, Phipps, Karoly and PAGES Aus2k Project Members<br />
(submitted), Evidence of unusual late 20th century warming from an Australasian<br />
temperature reconstruction spanning the last millennium.<br />
• Phipps, McGregor, Gergis, Gallant, Neukom, Stevenson, Ackerley, Brown, Fischer and<br />
van Ommen (in revision), Paleoclimate data-model comparison and the role of climate<br />
forcings over the past 1500 years.</p>
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		<title>By: John M</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/10/30/karoly-and-gergis-vs-journal-of-climate/#comment-400213</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Gergis et al now listed as “in revision” with Journal of Climate:&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So that they can apply revisionism, no doubt.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/revisionism]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Gergis et al now listed as “in revision” with Journal of Climate:</p></blockquote>
<p>So that they can apply revisionism, no doubt.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thefreedictionary.com/revisionism" rel="nofollow">http://www.thefreedictionary.com/revisionism</a></p>
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		<title>By: Skiphil</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/10/30/karoly-and-gergis-vs-journal-of-climate/#comment-400186</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skiphil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 20:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gergis et al now listed as &quot;in revision&quot; with Journal of Climate:

http://web.science.unsw.edu.au/~sjphipps/publications.html

(Phipps CV revised Feb. 7, 2013)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gergis et al now listed as &#8220;in revision&#8221; with Journal of Climate:</p>
<p><a href="http://web.science.unsw.edu.au/~sjphipps/publications.html" rel="nofollow">http://web.science.unsw.edu.au/~sjphipps/publications.html</a></p>
<p>(Phipps CV revised Feb. 7, 2013)</p>
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		<title>By: Feeding at the public trough &#8211; The Karoly dinner &#124; Watts Up With That?</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/10/30/karoly-and-gergis-vs-journal-of-climate/#comment-400164</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Feeding at the public trough &#8211; The Karoly dinner &#124; Watts Up With That?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] have thought Karoly should go without dinner until he publicly apologises for the errors in his last alarmist paper &#8211; since withdrawn- about “unusual” warming in [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have thought Karoly should go without dinner until he publicly apologises for the errors in his last alarmist paper &#8211; since withdrawn- about “unusual” warming in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Koss</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/10/30/karoly-and-gergis-vs-journal-of-climate/#comment-390447</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Koss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 18:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A whois lookup shows she has had that site since Jan 2007.

Very scenic picture on that page. Evidently taken by her. She has a copyright notice at the bottom of the page.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A whois lookup shows she has had that site since Jan 2007.</p>
<p>Very scenic picture on that page. Evidently taken by her. She has a copyright notice at the bottom of the page.</p>
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		<title>By: Skiphil</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/10/30/karoly-and-gergis-vs-journal-of-climate/#comment-390159</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skiphil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 06:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had not seen this before.... 
Gergis has a personal website (quite different from her blog which was &#039;disappeared&#039; last spring when the controversy began).  Gergis et al (2012) is listed as &quot;resubmitted September 2012, in review&quot; on the publications page:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://joellegergis.com/?page_id=6&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Joelle Gergis website&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;blockquote&gt;

23. Gergis, J., Neukom, R., Phipps, S.J., Gallant, A., Karoly, D.J. and PAGES Aus2K project members. Evidence of unusual late 20th century warming from an Australasian temperature reconstruction spanning the last millennium. Journal of Climate (resubmitted September 2012, in review).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had not seen this before&#8230;.<br />
Gergis has a personal website (quite different from her blog which was &#8216;disappeared&#8217; last spring when the controversy began).  Gergis et al (2012) is listed as &#8220;resubmitted September 2012, in review&#8221; on the publications page:</p>
<p><a href="http://joellegergis.com/?page_id=6" rel="nofollow">Joelle Gergis website</a> </p>
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<p>23. Gergis, J., Neukom, R., Phipps, S.J., Gallant, A., Karoly, D.J. and PAGES Aus2K project members. Evidence of unusual late 20th century warming from an Australasian temperature reconstruction spanning the last millennium. Journal of Climate (resubmitted September 2012, in review).</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Jean S</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/10/30/karoly-and-gergis-vs-journal-of-climate/#comment-387792</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jean S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Phipps&#039; CV, updated Dec. 19, 2012, lists the paper as
[30] Gergis, J., R. Neukom, A. J. E. Gallant, S. J. Phipps, D. J. Karoly and PAGES Aus2k Project Members, Evidence of unusual late 20th century warming from an Australasian temperature reconstruction spanning the last millennium, Journal of Climate, &lt;strong&gt;in revision&lt;/strong&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phipps&#8217; CV, updated Dec. 19, 2012, lists the paper as<br />
[30] Gergis, J., R. Neukom, A. J. E. Gallant, S. J. Phipps, D. J. Karoly and PAGES Aus2k Project Members, Evidence of unusual late 20th century warming from an Australasian temperature reconstruction spanning the last millennium, Journal of Climate, <strong>in revision</strong>.</p>
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		<title>By: Skiphil</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/10/30/karoly-and-gergis-vs-journal-of-climate/#comment-376445</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skiphil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 23:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-376444&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Skiphil (Nov 21 18:30)&lt;/a&gt;, 

ahhh, I was commenting upon a different abstract for another SH paper, which involved some of the same co-authors, but is not the one referenced on this thread.... that abstract appears further down in the PDF linked by Jean S.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-376444" rel="nofollow">Skiphil (Nov 21 18:30)</a>, </p>
<p>ahhh, I was commenting upon a different abstract for another SH paper, which involved some of the same co-authors, but is not the one referenced on this thread&#8230;. that abstract appears further down in the PDF linked by Jean S.</p>
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		<title>By: Skiphil</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2012/10/30/karoly-and-gergis-vs-journal-of-climate/#comment-376444</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skiphil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 23:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-376429&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jean S (Nov 21 17:32)&lt;/a&gt;, 

Is it &quot;interesting&quot; that Eric Steig of RC is now listed as a co-author??  I had not seen his name associated with this paper or with the SH group of the PAGES project before, although of course he does work on Antarctica.... would be interesting to know when and why he was brought into this group.  Perhaps doing the dirty work as a cut-out for Michael Mann and the RC team.....

There&#039;s that favorite word &quot;unprecedented&quot; -- this time for their vast &quot;network&quot; of SH proxies.

btw what are the &quot;300 sites&quot; mentioned... do they really have so many or are they dividing previous &quot;proxy&quot; locations into multiple &quot;sites&quot;??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-376429" rel="nofollow">Jean S (Nov 21 17:32)</a>, </p>
<p>Is it &#8220;interesting&#8221; that Eric Steig of RC is now listed as a co-author??  I had not seen his name associated with this paper or with the SH group of the PAGES project before, although of course he does work on Antarctica&#8230;. would be interesting to know when and why he was brought into this group.  Perhaps doing the dirty work as a cut-out for Michael Mann and the RC team&#8230;..</p>
<p>There&#8217;s that favorite word &#8220;unprecedented&#8221; &#8212; this time for their vast &#8220;network&#8221; of SH proxies.</p>
<p>btw what are the &#8220;300 sites&#8221; mentioned&#8230; do they really have so many or are they dividing previous &#8220;proxy&#8221; locations into multiple &#8220;sites&#8221;??</p>
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