Comments on: Acton and Muir Russell at Tribunal http://climateaudit.org/2013/01/14/acton-and-muir-russell-at-tribunal/ by Steve McIntyre Mon, 20 May 2013 20:19:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: anengineer http://climateaudit.org/2013/01/14/acton-and-muir-russell-at-tribunal/#comment-396793 Wed, 23 Jan 2013 02:38:29 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=17340#comment-396793 The trick is to use very strong jello.

The stuff in that photo isn’t even sagging a little bit

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]]> By: David Holland http://climateaudit.org/2013/01/14/acton-and-muir-russell-at-tribunal/#comment-395136 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 22:44:18 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=17340#comment-395136 Hi, Guys,

We got back from London around 7 pm local time, having left here at 6:30am, to battle through the snow, which I am sure the UEA laid on specially for me. : )

I am flattered by your many positive comments, for which I am grateful.

Judgement was reserved, but I think I could say that we could not have had a more diligent, competent and fair-minded tribunal and I have to say the UEA and the ICO were not without some arguable points. Andrew Montford, David Henderson and Richard Drake were there and may report at BH on some of the interesting things that emerged.

]]> By: Steve McIntyre http://climateaudit.org/2013/01/14/acton-and-muir-russell-at-tribunal/#comment-395021 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:37:01 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=17340#comment-395021 Richard Drake reported in comments at BH:

… Just come out of David Holland’s hearing and in a cybercafe, recharging my MacBook!

David did especially well in questioning Muir Russell this afternoon I thought. As Andrew’s just said, we may not win this one but it was a real education to witness (and David Henderson was sitting between us, a giant beside one pygmy at least!)

The tribunal of three (am I repeating myself?) the other end of the room seemed on the ball and very fair, based on all their interventions. ..

]]> By: Keith Sketchley http://climateaudit.org/2013/01/14/acton-and-muir-russell-at-tribunal/#comment-394988 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:02:10 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=17340#comment-394988 My too late comment:

David has to be assertive, even aggressive if necessary, demanding the sitnesses be succinct to allow proper time to cover everything.

Success will depend on who is chairing (judging) the tribunal, but in any case it is desirable to get some things on the record as having been asked or made as points.

]]> By: JD Ohio http://climateaudit.org/2013/01/14/acton-and-muir-russell-at-tribunal/#comment-394870 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:50:57 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=17340#comment-394870 Here are some UK links that deal with FOI that some might find useful:

http://www.ico.gov.uk/for_organisations/environmental_information/internal_guidance.aspx

and

http://www.ico.gov.uk/for_organisations/environmental_information.aspx

JD

]]> By: Geoff Sherrington http://climateaudit.org/2013/01/14/acton-and-muir-russell-at-tribunal/#comment-394738 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:00:09 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=17340#comment-394738 Best wishes, David. Of the various comments above, apart from Steve’s which stand alone, I’d go with qbeamus.
Do nothing to annoy the Judge. If you have not done so already, read the usual ways in which an application can be made in the hearings for hostile questioning of a recalcitrant witness and for a witness to be classed as unreliable during proceedings.
Remember that there could be reasons for another day in Court on following matters, so ground can be prepared at this weeks hearings.
Now forget all the advice you get from bush lawyers like me, be relaxed, confident and above all, scrupulouly direct and honest with your replies.

]]> By: Richard Drake http://climateaudit.org/2013/01/14/acton-and-muir-russell-at-tribunal/#comment-394729 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 08:11:15 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=17340#comment-394729 That’s right EdeF. David is the right name.

]]> By: Jimmy Haigh http://climateaudit.org/2013/01/14/acton-and-muir-russell-at-tribunal/#comment-394716 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 06:50:40 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=17340#comment-394716 David Holland is doing all this for nothing. Steve MacIntyre does this for nothing. Anthony Watts does everything he does for nothing. everyone on the sceptic side does what they do for nothing. It would be nice if there was just one lawyer on our side who would also pitch in for mothing…

]]> By: EdeF http://climateaudit.org/2013/01/14/acton-and-muir-russell-at-tribunal/#comment-394712 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 05:38:28 +0000 http://climateaudit.org/?p=17340#comment-394712 Sometimes the well thought out arguments of an honest man can be truely persuasive.
Good luck David.

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