Category Archives: Mann et al 2008

Signal to Noise Ratio Estimates of Mann08 Temperature Proxy Data

Guest post by Jeff Id from The Air Vent (used by invitation) Occasionally when working on one thing long enough, you discover something unexpected that allows you to take a step forward in understanding.  At the ICCC conference, I met Steve McIntyre and took time to ask him how come Mann07 “Robustness of proxy-based climate […]

Mann and his bristlecones

Gavin Schmidt and others have claimed that the M08 usage of the Tiljander sediments didn’t ‘matter’, because they could “get’ a series that looked somewhat similar without the sediments. They’ve usually talked around the impact of the Tiljander series on the no-dendro reconstruction. But there are two pieces of information on this. A figure added […]

Say My Name – February Rerun

Science has published a Correction and Clarification to Kaufman et al (2009), see here. Since they only needed to correct four out of 23 proxies, there is no need to name those who pointed out errors. ;) There is a small improvement over the draft version though; congratulations Hu! We thank H. McCulloch and others […]

Another Correction from Upside Down Mann

After a year of stonewalling, Mann has published an update at his “grey” Supplementary Information (not yet reported at PNAS) in which he acknowledges an “error” in his figure S8a as follows: UPDATE 4 November 2009: Another error was found in the corrected Supplementary figure S8a from December 2008: The previously posted version of the […]

Connolley Endorses Upside Down Mann

Kaufman’s grudging acknowledgement (see their draft Corrigendum) that they used the Tiljander proxies upside down has not convinced the Team that the identical orientation of the Tiljander proxies in Mann et al 2008 was also upside down. There has been an active new round of debate in the blogs, with William Connolley endorsing Upside Down […]

Upside-Side Down Mann and the “peerreviewedliterature”

In Andrew Revkin’s recent blog posting, he made the following observation about blogs, referring in particular to Climate Audit: What is novel about all of this is how the blog discussions have sidestepped the traditional process of peer review and publication, then review and publication of critiques, and counter-critiques, by which science normally does that […]

More Upside-Down Mann

Previously, we discussed the upside-down Tiljander proxies in Mann et al 2008. Ross and I pointed this out in our PNAS comment, with Mann denying in his answer that they were upside down. This reply is untrue (as Jean S and UC also confirmed.) Andy Baker’s SU967 proxy is used in Mann 2008 and is […]

Upside Down Tiljander in Japan

Some Japanese articles have been in the news recently. CA readers will be interested in the fact that CA was cited (thanks to a CA reader for the heads up). Here’s a graphic from their SI showing differences between Gaspé versions. As CA readers know, similar discrepancies occur for bristlecones between Ababneh and Graybill or […]

More on Voodoo Correlations

Mann said: Although 484 (~40%) pass the temperature screening process over the full (1850–1995) calibration interval, one would expect that no more than ~150 (13%) of the proxy series would pass the screening procedure described above by chance alone. Reader DC said: Of the 484 proxies passing the 1850-1995 significance test, 342 also passed both […]

More Changes at the Mann 2008 SI

Mannian confidence intervals have always been a mystery with MBH99 confidence interval methodology remaining an intractable mystery that has defeated all reverse engineering (and engineering) efforts by UC, Jean S and myself to date (though we haven’t picked up this file for a while.) I was very interested to see how Mann 2008 calculated confidence […]

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