Category Archives: Thompson

A Try for Thompson Data at PNAS

The recent success in getting at least some data from Phil Jones – which he had obstructed since my original request in 2003 – has caused me to refresh my attempts to get Lonnie Thompson to archive his data so that the scandalous inconsistencies between different versions can finally be appraised. Last year, he published […]

Dunde: Will the Real Slim Shady Please Stand Up?

One of my objectives in looking at both the Dulan tree ring data and Chinese station data is to take a fresh look at the Dunde ice core information, which is near Dulan and Delingha. twq says that he’s been analyzing low-frequency information from Dunde. A caveat for twq: the Dunde archiving situation is a […]

Dasuopu Versions

Al Gore’s hockey stick is from Lonnie Thompson’s ice cores. [Update: subsequent to this, we discovered that Al Gore's hockey stick is not "DR Thompson's thermometer" but Mann's hockey stick wearing a wig.] On previous occasions, we’ve talked about the Guliya ice core -Thompson’s failure to archive data; the use of three different and inconsistent […]

Guliya Core #2 and Mountain Glacier Flow

Here’s an interesting graphic from lecture notes of Jed Schneider and Kathryn Clapp here showing the flow of ice through a mountain glacier. If this is representative of flow in mountain glaciers, one wonders at what exactly is being recorded in a vertical drill hole away from the summit (such as Guliya Core 2). I’ll […]

Dasuopu Core #1

Three cores were drilled at Dasuopu. We don’t hear much about Core #1. It was drilled in a flow zone and, despite being 160 m deep, is only back to 1922 in the most recent discussion. I’m intrigued with this for a variety of reasons, including the fact that Guliya Core #3, the one that […]

More Guliya Mess

The Yang version of Guliya goes back to “AD200″ and is dated younger than Thompson et al 2004 (although a younger dating may also be in Thompson et al PNAS 2006). I did a quick comparison of the unarchived visual plot in Thompson et al (Science 1997) and compared it to the Yang version, yielding […]

More on Guliya

I wrote recently on the bizarre spaghetti graph from Guliya – where three inconsistent versions have been used in 2006 articles. I think that I may have a good first step at decoding this mess, as illustrated in the comparison below of the PNAS 2006, Climatic Change 2004 and Yang 2002 versions (used again in […]

Juckes, Yang, Thompson and PNAS: Guliya

As you can see from the plot of the Juckes’ proxies, the Yang composite is a very important contributor to the 20th century blade. The Yang Composite is a mainstay of recent Hockey Team reconstructions – its use in Team reconstructions began in Mann and Jones 2003 and was then “randomly selected” into Osborn and […]

Tephras in Ecuador

Donald T. Rodbell et al 2002 (with overlaps to Mark et al and Abbott et al) , entitled " A Late Glacial–Holocene Tephrochronology for Glacial Lakes in Southern Ecuador" , here correlates glacial lakes in southern Ecuador according to widespread tephra (volcanic deposits). A couple of interesting points – some BIG differences between radiocarbon dates […]

Laguna Paco Cocha, Peru

A while ago, I summarized an interesting article from the Venezuelan Andes. In that case, they concluded that the glaciers did not exist in the MWP. The post is worth re-reading in the context of Quelccaya. The authors used the continuous deposition of sediments in a proglacial lake to yield evidence of the discontinuous movements […]

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