Michael Kottek writes in the comment section:
The results of my FOI request to the University of Melbourne can be seen here:
http://tinyurl.com/96ey5dt
I requested all correspondence between the authors and the journal regarding the paper. The referees reports were exempted as were documents relating to the resubmitted paper.
I also requested correspondence between the authors after the paper was accepted. Once again emails relating to the resubmitted paper were exempted, and personal material redacted.
I note that emails regarding the paper that were received by one author and not forwarded to the others would not have been covered by my request.
Despite the embarrassment of the withdrawn paper, the University is to be commended for their no nonsense approach to this request. As an alumunus, I am pleased that the response is far more sensible than the approach taken by the UEA and UVa.
Steve: Oct 28, 9 pm Eastern
Here is a more detailed commentary which raises questions about Karoly’s claim that they had “independently” discovered the screening error on June 5. [Note: times in the emails are in multiple time zones. In the analysis below, it is my understanding that in June 2012, relative to UTC, Melbourne time was +10, Switzerland +2, Eastern -4, CA blog time -5.]
As CA readers are aware, the issue of screening in Gergis et al 2012 was first raised in a CA post in a May 31 blog post, a discussion that directly quoted the following paragraph of Gergis et al:
Our temperature proxy network was drawn from a broader Australasian domain (90E–140W, 10N–80S) containing 62 monthly–annually resolved climate proxies from approximately 50 sites (see details provided in Neukom and Gergis, 2011)… Only records that were significantly (p<0.05) correlated with the detrended instrumental target over the 1921–1990 period were selected for analysis. This process identified 27 temperature-sensitive predictors for the SONDJF warm season (Figure 1 and Table 1) henceforth referred to as R27.
The CA discussion, and, in particular, the Name and Shame blog post, was referred to on numerous occasions in the internal emails among Gergis, Neukom and others over the next few days, commencing almost immediately with an email from Gergis to Neukom and other coauthors we follows:
We should all be aware that this is unfolding: http://climateaudit.org/2012/05/31/myles-allen-calls-for-name-and-shame
In my original post, I had presumed that Gergis et al had used correlation screening against trending series (which I termed the “Screening Fallacy”), a topic discussed on a number of occasions at critical climate blogs (see references in original post.) Against this, Jim Bouldin and others argued that Gergis et al had employed detrending screening, thereby avoiding the CA criticism. The CA discussion quickly led to Jean S checking the correlations of the available series. On June 5 (blogtime 16:42; 07:42 June 6 in Melbourne), Jean S reported in CA comments here that Gergis’ claim by Gergis to have used detrended correlations was false (asking me and others to check). Jean S’ comment almost immediately (within an hour) attracted online notice from Hu McCulloch (blog 17:39) and Kenneth Fritsch (blog 18:19).
About two hours after Jean S’ post – by now nearly 2 am in Switzerland (June 6 09:46 Melbourne; 01:46 Switzerland; blog 18:46 June 5), Neukom urgently notified his Australian associates of the same problem that Jean S had reported at CA a couple of hours earlier. Neukom had a skype discussion with Gergis, followed up by an email (2Gergis, page 77) to Gergis, Karoly and others. Neukom noted that the mistake was related to the proxy screening (then under discussion at Climate Audit) and thus a “delicate issue”:
As just discussed with joelle on skype, I found a mistake in our paper in journal of climate today. It is related to the proxy screening, so it is a delicate issue. In the paper we write that we do the correlation analysis for the screening based on detrended (instrumental and proxy) data, but in reality we did not use detrended data.
Meanwhile at CA (blog time June 5 20:11; Melbourne 11:11), CA reader HaroldW reported that he had confirmed Jean S’ results. I checked in at CA with a question to Jean S (blog time 20:49 June 5; Melbourne 11:49).
June 7 (Australia time)
The following morning (10 am June 6 blogtime; June 7 01:00 Melbourne), I reported that I had confirmed Jean S’ results, posting the discussion as a fresh post a little later (12:01 June 6 blog time; 03:01 June 7 Melbourne).
In the evening of June 6 (Switzerland; 05:56 Melbourne), Neukom wrote Karoly with his assessment, expressing his desire to discuss matters with Karoly the following day. Karoly wrote back to Neukom (Melbourne 06:48; Switzerland June 6 22:48) urging use of detrended .
I think that it is much better to use the detrended data for the selection of proxies, as you can then say that you have identified the proxies that are responding to the temperature variations on interannual time scales, ie temp-sensitive proxies , without any influence from the trend over the 20th century . This is very important to be able to rebut the criticism is that you only selected proxies that show a large increase over the 20th century ie a hockey stick.
The same argument applies for the Australasian proxy selection. If the selection is done on the proxies without detrending ie the full proxy records over the 20th century, then records with strong trends will be selected and that wi ll effectively force a hockey stick result. Then Stephen Mcintyre criticism is valid. I think that it is really important to use detrended proxy data for the selection, and then choose proxies that exceed a threshold for correlations over the calibration period for either interannual variability or decadal variability for detrended data.
A little later in the Melbourne morning of June 7 (08:03; Switzerland June 7 00:03), Gergis asked Neukom whether he was “250% certain” of the problem. The emails are then surprisingly quiet through the rest of June 7 (Australia).
June 8 (Australia)
Early in the Australian morning of June 8 (06:47), Karoly emailed Neukom and others, referring them to the CA post of about 27 hours earlier (12:01 June 6 blog time; June 7 03:01 Australia; June 6 19:01 Switzerland).
Someone has now tried to reproduce the screening of the 27 selected proxies against the target Australasian temp series and is unable to reproduce the claimed results in the paper. http://climateaudit.org/2012/06/06/gergis-significance/. I suggest that you look at this Stephen Mcintyre post. Given that the error is now identified in the blogosphere, we need to notify the journal of the error and put the manuscript on hold
Although the CA post had cited Jean S’ results of June 5, Karoly disregarded these links back to the original provenance.
Gergis (2G:37, p 112; 2K:31) acknowledged Karoly’s email almost immediately (07:26 Melbourne). Gergis then (08:24 Melbourne; 00:24 Swiss) wrote to Neukom, but did not copy Karoly or other coauthors; Gergis argued to Neukom that they had emails showing that they “became aware of the issue” prior to the “latest blogpost” because they had “contacted authors for permission to release their records”:
Hi Raphi, we have emails that predate this latest blogpost that indicate we became aware of the issue as we contacted authors for permission to release their records
CA readers will recognize that Gergis here is sliding over a couple of issues: they had only asked authors to release records because of the May 31 CA blogpost in which screening had already been made an issue; and secondly, the results in the June 6 CA blogpost merely reported (and linked to) Jean S’ results reported in comments on June 5, a day earlier.
Neukom wrote back (08:26 Melbourne; 00:26 Swiss) warning his coauthors that caution needed to be taken with detrended correlations. A little later (08:42 Melbourne; 00:42 Swiss), Neukom sent Gergis a reconstruction with the (only) eight proxies that passed detrended correlation. Karoly noted (08:54 Melbourne; 00:54 Swiss) that some of the correlations were now flipped.
Throughout the rest of June 8, Karoly and Gergis started notifying others of the problem. First (10:38 Melbourne; 02:38 Swiss), Gergis (2K:34; page 73) notified coauthors Gallant and Phipps (cc Neukom) of the problem. In this first notice, Gergis said that Neukom had identified the problem on the morning of June 6 ( a time that corresponded to Neukom’s original email, which had been received in Melbourne at 09:42 June 6 (01:42 Switzerland):
Following on from my attempt to gain permission to release non publically available records released and submitted online with NOAA over the weekend, on Wednesday [June 6] morning Raphi discovered an error in the Aus2K temperature analysis….
Meanwhile, Stephen Mclntyre and co have located the error overnight (I was alerted through an intimidating email this morning): http://climateaudit.org/2012/06/06/gergis-significance . So instead of this being a unwanted but unfortunately normal part of science, we are likely to have an extremely negative online commentary about our work. Although it was an unfortunate data processing error, it does have implications for the results of the paper. We wish to alert you to this issue before the paper goes into final production.
Gergis had inaccurately notified her co-authors that “McIntyre and co have located the error overnight [June 8]”. In fact, the error had been identified at Climate Audit nearly two days earlier. Although Gergis refers here to a supposedly “intimidating email” (and uses the same phrase to Journal Climate later that day), no such email is included in the FOI emails . Nor did I send her any such email.
At 11:16, Gergis sent Karoly a draft notice letter to the Journal of Climate. Karoly reverted at 11:47 with his edits presumably those shown in the redlined version (2K:35, page 75). This version also reported their discovery of the error as occurring on June 6:
While attempting to release non-publicly available records used in our study with NOAA over the weekend [June 2-3], our team discovered an error in our paper.. .
When we went to recheck this on Wednesday [June 6], we discovered that the records used in the final analysis were not detrended for proxy selection, making this statement incorrect.
Soon afterwards (12:35 Melbourne), Gergis sent a revised notice letter to Journal of Climate. In the revised letter, the discovery date was now said to be Tuesday, June 5 rather than Wednesday June 6 of the earlier letter to coauthors and the draft only an hour earlier. They also inaccurately told Journal of Climate that Climate Audit had identified the error “overnight [June 8]”, more than two days after the actual time of the original report. Their letter stated:
While attempting to release non-publicly available records used in our study with NOAA this week, our team discovered an error in our paper….
When we went to recheck this on Tuesday [June 5], we discovered that the records used in the final analysis were not detrended for proxy selection, making this statement incorrect…
Meanwhile, independently of our team’s detection of this error, prominent climate change blogger Stephen Mclntyre has identified the issue overnight (I was alerted through an intimidating email this morning): http:l/climateaudit.org/2012/06/06/gergis-significance. So instead o(this being a unwanted but unfortunately normal part of science, we are likely to have an extremely negative online commentary about our work and possibly the journal.)
Gergis sent a near identically worded notice to PAGES 2K at 14:19, again saying that they had discovered the error on June 5 (Tuesday), adding a warning to the PAGES 2K consortium that they might have to archive all their data”
In terms of the consortium paper, please run with the current version of the Aus2K temperature reconstruction but please note that it may change in coming weeks…
They are now demanded that the full network of records be made available. Over the past week I have been busy contacting authors of non publically available records that were not used in the final temperature reconstruction to attempt to release their data. Everyone managed to agree on just the C20th portions used for calibration be released, but some still no not want to make their full records available.
This issue has implications for other 2K groups: ANY mention of proxy ‘screening’ or selection criteria is likely to be heavily criticised . Although we attempted to be transparent about our methodology, this has backfired and caused a lot of trouble. I just thought you should be aware that it may not be enough that only the records used in the final analysis are already available. It is possible that every record from every region {those rejected from the analysis and those used in final reconstructions) will need to be made available once the consortium paper is published.elp benefit the broader group.
During the Melbourne afternoon, Karoly worked with University of Melbourne public relations staff on a statement, sending a draft to Gergis and others at 15:57 (2K:38); Gergis reverted at 16:17. This statement adopted the date of “Tuesday 5 June” as the date on which the error was discovered:
While the paper states that “both proxy climate and instrumental data were linearly detrended over the 1921-1990 period”, it was discovered on Tuesday 5 June that the records used in the final analysis were not detrended for proxy selection, making this statement incorrect. Although this is an unfortunate data processing issue, it is likely to have implications for the results reported in the study. The journal has been contacted and the publication of the study has been put on hold.
At 17:56 Melbourne (09:56 Swiss), Karoly sent Neukom a short and long version of their statement. In the long version, they neutrally said that the error was discovered on “Tuesday June 5” (without attribution); no date was mentioned in the short statement. Karoly said that they planned to send a statement to me containing the above paragraph. Neukom reverted immediately (18:18 Melbourne), suggesting that they include the date in the short statement: (2K, 168).
Maybe we can include the date when we discovered the error also in the short statement so that it is clear that we did not just do it as a reaction to the Mclntyre blog?…
And I will try to write down everything that happened in the correct chronological order to be sure l can recall this all correctly. Because I think it may be interesting for some people to see how the error and its discovery developed and when/how we (re-)acted.
Neukom also requested that his work be checked:
I think all the analysis needs to be replicated by someone else (maybe Ailie or Steven) to make sure all other errors I made can be identified and eliminated.
Karoly (18:36) reverted to Neukom that he would put the date in the email to me, but doubted that I would “accept that we didn’t find the issue without his help, but that doesn’t matter”. Karoly additionally asked Neukom to keep “good records” of what happened.
I am about to go home and have some dinner, then I’ll send this to Mdntyre, so that he gets it Friday morning. Melbourne Uni wanted as little detail in the short statement as possible. l’ll put the date in my email to Mdntyre, which he will likely post, as well as the short statement. I doubt that he will accept that we didn’t find the issue without his help, but that doesn’t matter…
Please keep good records of what happened when, and what you did. Also, keep any records of emails you receive from McIntyre or other bloggers. Joelle is being sent hate emails.
If the FOI release is complete, while there are some critical emails, none appear to me to be fairly classified as “hate mail” – the term “hate mail”, as used by climate scientists, appears to include anything that is merely critical. Karoly sat on the notice to me overnight and sent me an email the following morning Melbourne time with the same paragraph. Karoly additionally noted that participants at CA had “also” identified this “data processing issue”:
We would be grateful if you would post the notice below on your ClimateAudit web site. We would like to thank you and the participants at the ClimateAudit blog for your scrutiny of our study, which also identified this data processing issue.
I reported this at the time, with eyebrows more than somewhat quizzically raised at the Gavinesque coincidence that, after months of peer review and after acceptance of their paper, they had supposedly “independently” discovered the error in screening on June 5 – the very day that the precise error was spelled out at CA (though the issue of Gergis screening had already been discussed for a few days.)
The removal of the Gergis paper had been noted in a comment at RC (June 8 15:50 blog time; June 9 03:50 Melbourne). Another RC commenter pointed out to Schmidt that the problem had been discovered at CA:
Gavin – you ought also to mention that the problem was discovered at the Climate Audit blog
Mann appears to have contacted Karoly soon afterwards, as, within 10 minutes of sending this email to me, Karoly forwarded the email to Mann, with a covering note that the comment at RC about removal was correct. Even though Karoly had told Mann about the error, Mann reverted to Karoly that Mann and the other RC authors would falsely tell RC readers that they had “no further information” on the retraction of the paper from the journal website and that he would involve Schmidt and Steig in the plan:
We have simply noted at RC in the comments that the paper does appear to have been retracted from the AMS website, and we have no further information as to why. I will share this w/ Eric and Gavin so they know the status,
Mann also made defamatory remarks about me to Karoly:
Well I’m afraid Mclntyre has probably already leaked this anyway. I probably don’t have to tell you this, but don’t trust him to behave ethically or honestly here, and assume that anything you tell him will be cherry-picked in a way that maximally discredits the study and will be leaked as suits his purposes.
Karoly pointed out to Mann (2K:55 11:19 Melbourne) that there was discussion at CA of the announcement here. Karoly told Mann that they had a “fully-documented” record demonstrating their priority over CLimate Audit:
PS We do have a fully-documented record or who, when and how the data processing issue was identified by a member of the author team independent of, and before, any posts on this issue at CA or other web sites.
Needless to say, no such “fully-documented record” was disclosed to Michael Kotteck.
