Weaver’s Next Generation Climate Model: Breaking News!!

According to the University of Victoria, Andrew Weaver says:

the next generation of his climate model will address the influence of climate on human evolution—much like it’s now being used to examine the influence of humans on climate evolution”.  

In breaking news, Climate Audit has obtained exclusive information on output from the first runs of Weaver’s “next generation” climate model. These are the first known climate model predictions of the future of human evolution. The results are worrying: take a look.


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41 Comments

  1. JST1
    Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 10:26 AM | Permalink

    “the next generation of his climate model will address the influence of climate on human evolution”

    Given our rate of evolution, it seems this will take a while to evaluate. Going to needs lots of money.
    Also, shouldn’t the cartoon be titled “The Descent of Mann”?

    Steve: These are the results from Weaver’s climate model, not Mann’s. I don’t understand your suggestion:)

  2. DBD
    Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 10:47 AM | Permalink

    It’s not even April 1st yet:)

  3. David P
    Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 10:48 AM | Permalink

    It appears to make no effort to hide the decline, at least.

  4. son of mulder
    Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 10:59 AM | Permalink

    It did mankind good and we left the other species behind. That makes historic climate divisive and unethical. Hopefully, with a full anthropogenic influence on climate it will undo such past travesties and we can all return to the our natural state or the other species will catch up (;>)

  5. Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 11:02 AM | Permalink

    Does this mean that in reality man won’t evolve at all for a number of decades (aka hiatus in evolution?)

  6. Pat Frank
    Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 11:20 AM | Permalink

    The projection must be correct, because it shows a clear hockey stick trend in waistline.

  7. Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 11:47 AM | Permalink

    Wonderful! Gave me a laugh.:)

  8. Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 12:00 PM | Permalink

    The result doesn’t look robust?

    • dfhunter
      Posted Mar 18, 2015 at 8:01 PM | Permalink

      robust is the inword – hear it everywhere now😉 wonder when that started ?

  9. Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 12:08 PM | Permalink

    Perhaps all but the last unfortunate evolutionary step were driven by global climate and the last by political climate. Politics loves obeisance and naked ambition regardless of facts.

  10. Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 12:25 PM | Permalink

    I must say as well that the last figure concerns me with respect to the rather generous proportions in the middle and the potential that such a shape may in fact hide an enormous amount of methane which, should it escape will then most certainly complete the positive feedback cycle: climate – evolution- climate…….

    • joe
      Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 1:41 PM | Permalink

      Oh – The horror of what Mann wroughts.

    • Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 3:13 PM | Permalink

      It’s just gone pear-shaped for him.

  11. David Jay
    Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 12:27 PM | Permalink

    …naked ambition…

    HEY!

  12. clays
    Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 12:36 PM | Permalink

    Quickly, please add a sarcasm tag before Brandon comments that this is not a full representation of Weaver’s model, he (Brandon) doesn’t understand why you think the information is exclusive, and that it is weird, in a twisted way, that you refer to “runs” of the model when the output is clearly of a single run. (Not to mention that the model output results include a mysterious signature that appears to say “Josh”.)

    • dalechant
      Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 7:56 PM | Permalink

      If there’s a non sequitur lurking, big or small, trivial or substantial, you can always rely on Brandon to flush it out. I respect and appreciate him for that.

      • Brandon Shollenberger
        Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 11:50 PM | Permalink

        Thanks for the kind words dalechant. It’s remarkable a month ago practically nobody was saying things like clays is saying, but now, it’s become common. Either I underwent a major shift in behavior in the last month, or…

  13. John M
    Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 12:37 PM | Permalink

    The round mound of unsound…

  14. Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 1:22 PM | Permalink

    jazz hands:-)

  15. graphicconception
    Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 1:34 PM | Permalink

    I suppose modesty precludes the depiction of a hockey stick?

  16. Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 1:39 PM | Permalink

    Or perhaps the depiction would harm the very fragile self esteem if not long enough to reach the puck.

  17. Bob
    Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 2:20 PM | Permalink

    Looks to me that Gavin is pregnant with a little Mann.

  18. pottereaton
    Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 2:50 PM | Permalink

    Do I detect a bit of a gooose step there? Or maybe he’s just trying to get away from the big guy behind him.

  19. Beta Blocker
    Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 2:59 PM | Permalink

    Didn’t this breaking news come from an article the University of Victoria published online in February, 2007?

    See http://ring.uvic.ca/07feb08/weaver.html

  20. Nix
    Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 3:44 PM | Permalink

    Aaargh… Now I have Mike Mann’s naked body permanently etched onto my retina.

  21. RHL
    Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 3:48 PM | Permalink

    The survival of the fitless.

  22. Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 4:56 PM | Permalink

    Weaver weaves a tale of pre-science because it isn’t science.

    John

  23. JEM
    Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 6:15 PM | Permalink

    Steve’s daily spoonful of aluminum oxide for dear Andy’s shorts.

  24. PAYG
    Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 6:25 PM | Permalink

    Apparently the last figure has an statistical error; note the goose-step !

  25. S. Geiger
    Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 6:35 PM | Permalink

    What a piece of work is Mann?

  26. Paul Courtney
    Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 7:19 PM | Permalink

    If this model is a correct projection, then it thoroughly debunks intelligent design.

  27. michael hart
    Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 7:56 PM | Permalink

    Looks like the universe is rapidly running out of sustainable problems for the models to solve.

  28. Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 8:46 PM | Permalink

    From Mann to the monkey is not a long stride,
    Next is full Monty so now I’ll go hide…

  29. Ken Robinson
    Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 8:53 PM | Permalink

    Steve:

    I assume you’re looking forward to the inevitable lawsuit from Andrew Weaver for daring to mock an academic in the context of his chosen field. I further assume you’ll be starting a legal defense fund. I’m good for $50.

    Seriously though, I would love to watch you systematically take down that… ahem … gentleman, in a legal battle. Regardless of the veracity of Weaver’s (IMO idiotic) theories or the global warming hypothesis generally, free speech is, perhaps, the most important of all rights. Weaver’s victory in court was not only an error of law on the part of the judge, it was an egregious assault on a basic human right.

    Good on you.

    Steve: I take care to ensure that my facts are correct and to avoid over-editorializing. I also have a long-standing policy of correcting errors when drawn to my attention. If there’s anything inaccurate in these posts, it would be my policy to correct the error and apologize rather than get into litigation. In most of the cases in litigation, the parties have said things that I wouldn’t have said, though on the two main NP issues – e.g. Weaver’s belief that the fossil fuel industry was responsible for the break-ins – I too thought that that was Weaver’s belief and wrote a post satirizing Weaver as well. I find it implausible that this sort of commentary could be actionable and therefore strongly believe that J Burke’s decision needs to be appealed.

    If you see any comments in these articles that contain factual errors, especially errors that could be libelous, I would appreciate it if you brought it to my attention so that I can correct it.

    In respect to these cartoons, I believe that the precedent of Vander Zalm v Times Publishing (1980) is bulletproof and that McConchie would discourage Weaver from attempting to suppress such commentary.

    • Ron Graf
      Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 11:45 PM | Permalink

      Steve, We see you are careful but there are no limits to initiating a law suit. Punishment for a frivolous law suit (Dragonetti Act here in PA, USA) is extremely rare unless you try to sue a lawyer for malpractice.

      I think you would have quite a loyal group of supporters. But we would expect you to autograph t-shirts or something for us in return.:) I have been buying Steyn merchandise. I am paying to see the court performance. It could turn out to be a QBVII or a Scopes Trial, especially if Mann takes the hot seat.

  30. russellseitz
    Posted Mar 17, 2015 at 11:28 PM | Permalink

    Endomorphs and ectomorphs make excellent phenotypical sense in terms of heat transfer in cold and hot climates I.

    Perhaps should start by modeling a spherical economist and take things heuristically from there

  31. John Francis
    Posted Mar 18, 2015 at 12:37 AM | Permalink

    I hope the National Post starts a fund-raising campaogn to fund its appeal, which I understand is going ahead. All of us need to back our opinions with dollars, to avoid the libel chilling effect. Mark Steyn has shown we can do it.

    • Brandon Shollenberger
      Posted Mar 18, 2015 at 12:57 AM | Permalink

      John Francis:

      All of us need to back our opinions with dollars, to avoid the libel chilling effect.

      So I need to donate money to Andrew Weaver to help him try to prevent the National Post from libeling him? I think I’ll pass. As much as I detest the National Post’s failure to even attempt to abide by basic journalistic standards, to the point where it flagrantly makes things up to belittle people it dislikes, I don’t care for Andrew Weaver either. I think the National Post got exactly what it deserved for repeatedly making things up, but I don’t see that I need to donate money because of that belief.

  32. Posted Mar 23, 2015 at 12:51 AM | Permalink

    On a more serious note, I have suggested some years ago that the reverse direction of climate on human behaviour needs to be much more seriously considered. Temperature is known to affect the behaviour of many animals and there is no reason that humans should be different.

    In his comprehensive studies of climate and history, Raymond Wheeler found that depending on prevailing conditions of wet/dry and warm/cool, adjectives used for rulers such as “great” and “despot” could be largely explained.

    If I am right about this then a cool period from the Sun could lead to human activity slowing down.

  33. Posted Mar 24, 2015 at 6:05 PM | Permalink

    Steve

    Somewhat on topic. The foundations of statistical theory questioned…

    http://www.datasciencecentral.com/profiles/blogs/p-values-the-gold-standard-of-statistical-validity-are-not-as

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