Slashdot: McIntyre & McKitrick (2005) and open source science

The work of McIntyre and McKitrick has been mentioned on slashdot (after an interminable wait, it seems)

theidocles writes "The ongoing debate over the ‘hockey stick’ climate graph has an interesting side note. McKitrick & McIntyre (M&M), the critics, have published their complete source code and it’s written using the well-known R statistics package (covered by the GPL). Mann, Bradley & Hughes, the defenders, described their algorithm but have only released part of their source code, and refuse to divulge the rest, which really makes it look like they have some errors/omissions to hide (they did publish the data they used). There’s an issue of open source vs closed source as well as how much publicly-funded researchers should be required to disclose – should they be allowed to generate ‘closed-source’ solutions at the taxpayers’ expense?"


  1. Michael Ballantine
    Posted Mar 22, 2005 at 11:51 AM | Permalink

    Typical /. Commentary with most of it off topic. As usual, the early posters are reasonably well informed and then it trails off into wildly oscillating noise. The only really good thing about the posting is that it is read by a LOT of people so the relavent sites may see a major increase in their traffic for a while.
    For those not aware, it is not uncommon for a site to be slashdotted. A featured link gets so much traffic that it undergoes a meltdown. And before the nit pickers go off topic, a Meltdown is a descriptive expression for a computer server that experiences too much traffic for the hardware and/or software to handle so it crashes. It is not related to global warming.

  2. David
    Posted Mar 22, 2005 at 2:10 PM | Permalink

    Hello, I´m from the slashdot crowd and I recently did a school paper regarding your research and other doubters of the Mann hockeystick. Nice to see you guys opensourcing your code. Great work, we really need to get more people to realise that a single theory is not enough in most places. Keep debating, and keep doing research. Cheers.

  3. Posted Mar 22, 2005 at 5:04 PM | Permalink

    I’m not a scientist, and so perhaps your greatest advocate. But I’ve been linking like crazy to this site…since I started my blog all of 6 days ago.

    Keep up the good work!

  4. Dr Roger Bell
    Posted Mar 28, 2005 at 10:51 AM | Permalink

    In a number of places I have read about shareholder resolutions asking what different oil companies are going to do about global warming. For example, there was a brief note about Exxon in today’s Wall Street Journal. Have you (M&M) told these companies about your work? I would think that it would be “interesting” for CEOs to mention it at their AGMs. It would be better for them than meekly accepting the IPCC nonsense.

  5. Posted Mar 29, 2005 at 2:45 PM | Permalink

    You realize Roger that the global warming crowd already accuse McIntyre and his colleagues of being on the “Big Oil” payroll?

  6. Posted May 28, 2008 at 12:33 AM | Permalink

    Well..the “Big Oil” payroll in fact has nothing to do with global warming since the price is still cheap in oil producing countries. The main reason why it’s so expensive is because the business men (the middle men) who always put big profit to selling price….the same way stocks do, but this is worse.

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  1. By No Illusions on Mar 24, 2005 at 6:03 PM

    Global warming: Update on the hockey stick debate
    From Slashdot to Climate Audit, via Tim Blair, hockey stick creator Michael Mann needs to re-engage here:theidocles [in a comment at Slashdot] writes "The ongoing debate over the 'hockey stick' climate graph has an interesting side n…

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